How is Wukong on season 3?

#1yourDaddiePosted 12/4/2012 5:11:13 PM
I always keep him in my hearth since he was the first champion I ever become good whit, however on the late season 2 many of the dominating tops countered him and became relegated to an AP counter pick

1) how is he on season 3?

2) can he jungle better now now ? he is a monkey so it makes sense for him to jungle
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#2yourDaddie(Topic Creator)Posted 12/4/2012 5:14:25 PM
guys plz
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#3VoidgolemPosted 12/4/2012 5:16:45 PM
Quadruple Cleavers makes any melee AD broken.
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#4DonutDeityPosted 12/5/2012 7:52:22 PM(edited)
edit: nvm

Still ridiculously close to true dmg.
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#5bibliotheek357Posted 12/5/2012 7:48:27 PM
DonutDeity posted...
Wukong now has 100% arpen with one BC and LW.

30% BC, 30% Q, 40% LW

Riot is dumb.


I'm not even gonna explain this.
#6FiveSeven77Posted 12/5/2012 7:49:08 PM
DonutDeity posted...
Wukong now has 100% arpen with one BC and LW.

30% BC, 30% Q, 40% LW

Riot is dumb.


Pls.
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#7Sarick_LyrePosted 12/5/2012 7:58:36 PM(edited)
DonutDeity posted...
Wukong now has 100% arpen with one BC and LW.

30% BC, 30% Q, 40% LW

Riot is dumb.


Penetration doesn't work like that. Also BC is 25% max and LW is 35%. Also Penetration doesn't stack additively.

The 25% of Black Cleaver when applies makes the target have 75% left. When you take Last Whisper you then have 48.75% of their armour left. If they stacked additively they'd only have 40% left. Now multiple sources of "percentage penetration" have reduced effects. This is mostly because once you're over 50% reduction each point is worth more than double than what you were getting back when you had closer to 0% (seeing how armour stacking is reduced in effectiveness).

Of course its the flat armpen that's making people hit 0 armour at the end of the day which is where the real potency problem comes from. Because if you have 150 armour, are losing 75 and they have like 40 armpen you only get left with 35 armour.
#8RiliyksPosted 12/5/2012 8:27:11 PM
Given that, Riot will probably nerf Wukong rather than adressing the issue that is stacking pen while making armor harder to get is allowing stuff like this to happen :P
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#9FlameLord23Posted 12/5/2012 8:30:16 PM
Yes let's nerf Wukong, Garen, Riven, J4... All the AD Bruisers because we can't tell that the common theme is the item.

And nerf Darius because he's f***ing OP as my left nutsack.
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#10thecrossnkightPosted 12/5/2012 8:40:05 PM
Let's assume target has 200 armor

30% reduction from Q = 140 AR
30% reduction from BC = 98
40% penetration from LW + mastery = 58.8

Flat ARpen
19 from reds and quints
5 from mastery
15 from BC
20 from GB
= 59 ARpen

Wukong deals true damage to 200 AR

400 AR

30% reduction from Q = 280
30% from BC = 196
40% from LW + mastery = 117.6
117.6 - 59 = 58.6 AR

You just knocked someone down from 80% reduction to 36% reduction. Assuming 1000 damage (crit or something) you went from dealing 200 to dealing 740. Almost a 400% damage increase.


Enjoy one-shotting everything in the game with wukong.
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