Is Black Cleaver the new Atma's?

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3 years ago#1
Every game I've seen on streams, bruisers are buying this item 99% of the time. I thought the whole point of the S3 item changes were to give people more variety in their builds, but it's starting to remind me of the old Atma's where almost every bruiser would buy it as a second item.

It's like, Riven top? Get some sustain, then Black Cleaver. Pantheon mid? Black Cleaver rush. Jarvan Jungle? Wriggles then Black Cleaver. Hell, Ezreal bottom? Maybe a phage first, then Black Cleaver. I understand that it's a new item and people want to test it out, but I'm not seeing much variety thus far.
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3 years ago#2
Because it destroys armor. You'll basically be doing true damage to your opponent if you have good sustain and can stick to them. That's why.
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3 years ago#3
I thought they said it's "downside" was going to be that it doesn't grant much AD, so if the opponents aren't building a lot of armor it won't be as effective.

Doesn't seem to be the case.
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3 years ago#4
It has every stat a bruiser could want, a nice buildup, and it's relevant early, mid, and lategame. Of course every bruiser is going to build it. Even Atma's in its prime had the iffy crit working against it.
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3 years ago#5
People didn't rush Atmas, everyone rushes BC.
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3 years ago#6
Dyrus built 3 Black Cleavers on Talon.
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3 years ago#7
It's because people are combing it with Frozen Mallet and Ravenous Hydra. Stickiness, sustain, massive splash damage, armpen, true damage, and eventual death.

Darius is happy.
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3 years ago#8
From: Wingding11 | #004
It has every stat a bruiser could want, a nice buildup, and it's relevant early, mid, and lategame. Of course every bruiser is going to build it. Even Atma's in its prime had the iffy crit working against it.


Exactly my point. So how does introducing an item like this increase variety?
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3 years ago#9
Yeah Black Cleaver is most likely OP. Good news is that it'll likely get nerfed a tad.
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3 years ago#10
xRustySpoon posted...
From: Wingding11 | #004
It has every stat a bruiser could want, a nice buildup, and it's relevant early, mid, and lategame. Of course every bruiser is going to build it. Even Atma's in its prime had the iffy crit working against it.


Exactly my point. So how is introducing an item like this increase variety?


Well tbh We've known that Cleaver was getting changed for about a month and a half now, so for obvious reasons, people are going to want to play it constantly.
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