mariokirbyfoxPosted 12/8/2012 8:34:01 AM | I gotta say that for Riven she gets so much more OP late game than you she used to with Black Cleavers now. Old final build: Merc Treads, Guardian Angel, 3x Bloodthirster, Last Whisper
New Final Build: Merc Treads, Guardian Angel, 4x Black Cleaver
Assuming fully stacked Bloodthirsters youre down 140 AD, 40% Armor Pen and a little Armor and MR. However, she has gained 60 flat armor pen, 30% Armor Reduction, 1000 Health and 40% CDR which more than makes up for the losses. --- My old signature was deemed offensive to politicians. Now Ill just be offensive to hamsters. Stupid lazy hamsters. |
profDEADPOOLPosted 12/8/2012 8:37:12 AM | From: Voidgolem | #004No.
Four cleavers and a bulwark/GA works just fine, though. --- Official Mienshao of the pokemon B/W and BW2 clans Comic pull list: UXF, WatX, Hawkeye, Secret Avengers, Gambit, JLD, and Batwing |
DottledPosted 12/8/2012 8:41:51 AM | More than 3 is overkill (literally?). It might be fun to see when it's pulled off, but you're just not gonna last long against a competent team. I think on Garen you're better taking 3 cleavers, a maw for the magic resist and some AD, and an atma's gives armor, a good AD boost due to your extra health plus much desired crit for your spin.
This gives you enough defense due to the boost from W, 30% cdr, about 3k health, a lot of armor pen, and 250ish AD, plus crit. I don't think a 4th is worth it. --- Overused memes disqualify you from conversing with me. |
_Sociology_Posted 12/8/2012 8:43:21 AM | Yes.
ANything works on low elo --- Sexo e tao BAO. Verdade? MHMM. |
beedtrackerPosted 12/8/2012 8:43:28 AM | Bc got nerfed just now --- Halo4 is a gothamcityimpostors clone, which is not a good thing at all Anarchy Reigns is coming for 30 bucks, get hype! |
mystic belmontPosted 12/8/2012 8:49:59 AM | From: Dottled | #013More than 3 is overkill (literally?). It might be fun to see when it's pulled off, but you're just not gonna last long against a competent team. I think on Garen you're better taking 3 cleavers, a maw for the magic resist and some AD, and an atma's gives armor, a good AD boost due to your extra health plus much desired crit for your spin.
This gives you enough defense due to the boost from W, 30% cdr, about 3k health, a lot of armor pen, and 250ish AD, plus crit. I don't think a 4th is worth it. Well, if you are playing a tank,, and you reduced all of the opponents armor by 30%, it makes short work for the group. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Henry McNeal Turner [Evil Republican] |
DottledPosted 12/8/2012 8:51:51 AM | mystic belmont posted...
Well, if you are playing a tank,, and you reduced all of the opponents armor by 30%, it makes short work for the group.
You can still do this with 3 cleavers. An AD carry like Trist, Ashe or Vayne could kite him easily so he really needs the defense imo. --- Overused memes disqualify you from conversing with me. |
profDEADPOOLPosted 12/8/2012 9:13:05 AM | From: beedtracker | #015Bc got nerfed just now Only on PBE. The nerfs may change. Personally I think the penetration being unique was a good change but reducing the amount of flat pen it gives is overkill. --- Official Mienshao of the pokemon B/W and BW2 clans Comic pull list: UXF, WatX, Hawkeye, Secret Avengers, Gambit, JLD, and Batwing |
mystic belmontPosted 12/8/2012 9:19:57 AM | You could probably make the reduction passive unique, that would probably fix it. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Henry McNeal Turner [Evil Republican] |