If you stack The Black Cleaver you are bad at this game.

#11mrg59Posted 12/9/2012 10:59:16 PM
Duh.

It was already discussed how the White Cleaver is better, and the Yellow Cleaver is cheaper.
#12Lord GrahfPosted 12/9/2012 10:59:32 PM
Oh, hey look. It's ESL Asia, team MVP White vs. CJ Entus.

And Talon is mid stacking black cleavers.
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#13ineedaname88Posted 12/9/2012 11:16:08 PM
This is why I'm playing bots right now....
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#14TheSchrefPosted 12/9/2012 11:17:46 PM
Best Riven NA was just doing it on Lee Sin. He was basically 3-4 shotting anyone on the enemy team.
#15Rising ChaosPosted 12/9/2012 11:27:07 PM
But CDR isn't even good on Lee Sin... :(

Stacking Cleavers isn't optimal even now (and they're nerfing it) but it's close enough that you're not shooting yourself in the foot by doing so. Regardless, it's pretty anti-fun that you can obtain 200+ Armor and still have 100% of it shredded.
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#16GujinKamiPosted 12/9/2012 11:29:10 PM
From: Rising Chaos | #055
Stacking Cleavers isn't optimal even now

Regardless, it's pretty anti-fun that you can obtain 200+ Armor and still have 100% of it shredded.

How in Avos is that not optimal if you're completely depleting enemy armor?
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#17Lord GrahfPosted 12/9/2012 11:30:05 PM
From: Rising Chaos | #015
But CDR isn't even good on Lee Sin... :(

Stacking Cleavers isn't optimal even now (and they're nerfing it) but it's close enough that you're not shooting yourself in the foot by doing so. Regardless, it's pretty anti-fun that you can obtain 200+ Armor and still have 100% of it shredded.


Four black cleavers plus masteries would only shred about 150 of that 200 armor.
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#18GrimtronPosted 12/9/2012 11:33:40 PM
MhkaMAth posted...
50 damage bro.

50

damage


x5

That's 250 damage.

250 TRUE DAMAGE.
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#19GujinKamiPosted 12/9/2012 11:38:05 PM
From: Grimtron | #058
x5

That's 250 damage.

250 TRUE DAMAGE.

PER HIT

IMAGINE THAT ON AN ADC WITH 2+ ATTACK SPEED! WE'RE TALKING 1K DAMAGE EVERY 2 SECONDS

THAT'S A FULL HP TANK DEAD IN 8 OR SO SECONDS
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#20BuIzeebPosted 12/9/2012 11:38:59 PM
BC is too synergistic internally, since Arpen and CDR are stats that work better the more you stack them. Additionally most bruisers/assassins rely more on their base damage than on their scaling, so having their abilities do close to true damage as well as having them up more often is going to just push that strength. The AD and HP provide general strength that making stacking it less punishing.
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