Cleaver probably still needs to be nerfed

#21BalanceNotLostPosted 12/23/2012 3:41:07 AM
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#22Viewtiful_JonPosted 12/23/2012 3:49:57 AM
Maybe have stacks build up slower with mutliple hit or multiple target abilities, Kinda like how spell vamp is less effective. You would still be able to get to teh same maximum but would take more hits to get there from these multi target abilities.
#23chaoshadouPosted 12/23/2012 4:20:22 AM
So you want to make ad casters utter garbage again?
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#24DeanyzyPosted 12/23/2012 4:28:10 AM
It looks like they're going through the AD Casters and adjusting their numbers which I'm not against.
#25Will_UnderscorePosted 12/23/2012 4:30:50 AM
Bring back atmogs and we'll talk.
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#26Dark VaporeonPosted 12/23/2012 4:32:29 AM
People who claim that the Cleaver wasnt OP are obviously the ones who use it non-stop.
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#27necroix05Posted 12/23/2012 4:57:55 AM
There has never been a period of time where we weren't forced into bans.

I don't understand how riot is so bad at balancing items and the offense vs defense dilemma.

I guess it's good that offense is better than defense but they made defense trivial.
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#28RaverbasherPosted 12/23/2012 5:06:01 AM
necroix05 posted...
There has never been a period of time where we weren't forced into bans.

I don't understand how riot is so bad at balancing items and the offense vs defense dilemma.

I guess it's good that offense is better than defense but they made defense trivial.


Well, if you don't understand how riot is so bad at balancing items take a look at how they balance champs.

See the similarity?

It's because Riot are just bad at this, despite now being a company which is probably worth billions.
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#29SorrySleepingPosted 12/23/2012 9:46:52 AM
From: BalanceNotLost | #021
Voidgolem posted...
joke's on you, it's back to 30% again on the PBE.

*makes another tally on Prophecy Monolith*


On an unrelated note, seeing people putting actions between asterisks makes various unpleasantries go through my head, some being "cancer", "weeaboo", "autism", "what the actual ****", and "why are people still using this", among others.


Would you rather uses do this?

/me makes another tally on the Prophecy MonolithDo you seriously have that much of a problem with people doing actions?
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#30SlaynPosted 12/23/2012 9:57:43 AM
Before S3 people were excited about the changes to arm pen. Now that S3 is upon is, Black Cleaver is so good I honestly feel that building armor is useless. BC is so good on just about everyone who deals physical damage. Might as well just build HP now.
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