So when did Elise get uber ridiculous burst?

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3 years ago#1
I was in a game with an Elise who was running an all AP rune page with magic pen reds and she had like, a Doran's ring. I was chasing a Nocturne as Skarner, Nocturne runs into a bush with Elise in it, and he's dead before I even get a hit in for an assist. Elise had like 25% HP at the start too. Nocturne had at least 65-70% HP.
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3 years ago#2
always had it
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3 years ago#3
Elise has been stronk forever, people are just too busy playing swain and evelynn to notice
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3 years ago#4
Yeah I was seriously surprised how crazy Elise was from playing during the free week
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3 years ago#5
Its because in a team fight she is pure poop
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3 years ago#6
uh 8% current health damage followed by spiderling, spider form, 8% missing health.

adds up man. specially with spell pen. also ap brings up the % amount. not a flat amount.
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3 years ago#7
I remember watching a tournament (IPL 5 I think) and one of the casters pointed out that Elise and Rengar didn't need to build damage because they had so much in their kit already. Doesn't surprise me one bit to hear that an Elise with some damage built on her hits like a truck. I say hear since I've never actually played her and the only ones I've seen have been pretty bad and felt useless.
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3 years ago#8
iddZk33p posted...
always had it
3 years ago#9
It's no ability in particular; it's just that she has too many sources of damage

E someone as human

Q+W as human

Q+W as spider

+the damage from her passive spiders

it's like 5 things she just uses consecutively that are separate from each other

she's sort of balanced in that she either has to build dmg and be blown up instantly in team fights or build tanky and be useless in team fights

she's just a stupid duelist
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3 years ago#10
Shuriko posted...
It's no ability in particular; it's just that she has too many sources of damage

E someone as human

Q+W as human

Q+W as spider

+the damage from her passive spiders

it's like 5 things she just uses consecutively that are separate from each other

she's sort of balanced in that she either has to build dmg and be blown up instantly in team fights or build tanky and be useless in team fights

she's just a stupid duelist


This. She's basically an AP version of S2 Renekton. Win lane lose game. I've seen plenty of Elise's get fed in lane and then simply not be able to carry because 1) other assassins get their damage out faster and safer in a teamfight 2) her damage is pretty much all single-target which means other AP mids (even when behind) do more overall damage in teamfights and 3) other bruisers do better damage/disruption if you build her that way.
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