Why are AD carries building Static Shiv instead of Phantom Dancer?

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2 years ago#11
I think there was some math on it. Shiv was better for early to mid, but PD picked up after mid to late.

Something like that.
2 years ago#12
SirFeed posted...
lightning is cooler


That's why I've been building it.
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2 years ago#13
For ADC that you kite/chase with, Shiv is 'better'. Vayne, Ashe, and Draven are all good examples. For other carries, the choice is preference.
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2 years ago#14
Vascela posted...
I think there was some math on it. Shiv was better for early to mid, but PD picked up after mid to late.

Something like that.


Shiv is better if winning by the numbers, and for pushing. It continues the snowball to allow you to push your advantage.

PD is better when losing because it's better in the late game than Shiv. It's not as good for pushing, but pushing isn't as important when you're losing, it's all about the teamfights.

I think it was Aphor who had the math on it.
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2 years ago#15
Good for ADC without really good wave clear. EZ for example
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2 years ago#16
Stattik Shiv + Frozen Fist on Ez is so lulz.
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2 years ago#17
http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/22679-statikk-shiv-vs-phantom-dancer?page=3

This explains it pretty well.
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2 years ago#18
I just carried my team with IceShiv Ezreal so hard.

The hilarious thing is my other items were like, Zeke's and Bulwark. I had pretty much no AD built but the sheer AoE chunk of ice cloud + chain lightning every few seconds did wonders. Also using his E is cool because it gives you a large amount of static since it's distance traveled, not distance ran.


Probably terrible in ranked though so w/e.
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2 years ago#19
Xion350 posted...
I think the main reason they're building it is because it builds out of Avarice blade which gives a fairly good ammount of gold income while building into something useful.


Nobody builds Avarice Blade early, nor do you get it before Zeal. As an AD carry you almost always skip over Avarice Blade entirely and by Shiv after you have Zeal.
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2 years ago#20
Tbh, I don't really know myself.
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