who beats nocturne top?

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3 years ago#11
Nowe242 posted...
The problem with Noc is that his passive and only form of innate sustain pushes the lane.

A team with a competent jungler (or at least one that isn't forced to camp another lane) will just get the jungler to gank you every time you over extend, which is going to happen a lot with Umbra Blades.


The problem with people saying its a problem with people with sustain issues is that most of the most popular solo tops don't even have sustain.


That's a problem.
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3 years ago#12
I like how people say noc pushes the lane. Champs like Malphite and rumble do just fine.
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3 years ago#13
From: happyscrub1 | #052
I like how people say noc pushes the lane. Champs like Malphite and rumble do just fine.

Malphite's W damage is so small, you won't notice it at all, so the only way you'll push is if you go in to harass. Same with Rumble, except he doesn't auto-torch minions every 6 or 7 seconds.
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3 years ago#14
Now that starting with wards is common on top lane, i dont see how Noct couldn't go there.
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3 years ago#15
yea im pretty good at avoiding ganks thru wards, which arguably is his biggest weakness at top lane because he does push so hard. But occasionally ill get a double kill from their gank.
My strategy is to get level 2 before the other person, and basically Q+E ignite them and they will either A) Die or B) Flash away, then i have the fear in them and its all the game of avoiding ganks at that point.
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3 years ago#16
Feels like you're completely wasting his ult's potential if you don't jungle...
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3 years ago#17
themagicpainman posted...
Feels like you're completely wasting his ult's potential if you don't jungle...


TF mid, Shen top?
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3 years ago#18
Pushing the lane isn't that huge of a problem. Ward properly and/or go back to tower/base every time the lane is pushed too far. You won't lose a lot of cs compared to your opponent who will be pressured to stay at tower. Not only the tower makes it hard to cs for a lot of champions, but your opponent also can't roam or base a lot unless he wants to lose his tower.

From: themagicpainman | Posted: 1/17/2013 8:43:12 PM | #016
Feels like you're completely wasting his ult's potential if you don't jungle...

From top lane you can gank enemy jungler and mid laner all day every day.
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3 years ago#19
happyscrub1 posted...
themagicpainman posted...
Feels like you're completely wasting his ult's potential if you don't jungle...


TF mid, Shen top?


Shen's is fully global, that doesn't count.

You got a point with mid.
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3 years ago#20
themagicpainman posted...
happyscrub1 posted...
themagicpainman posted...
Feels like you're completely wasting his ult's potential if you don't jungle...


TF mid, Shen top?


Shen's is fully global, that doesn't count.

You got a point with mid.


Everybody knows TF is best jungler.
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