Irelia vs Elise?

#1DiortePosted 1/18/2013 10:08:50 PM
Who wins lane?
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#2SSStierPosted 1/18/2013 10:09:41 PM
elise
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#3Arken101Posted 1/18/2013 10:15:37 PM
Elise always wins lane. Her Q is on a crazy short CD, Irelia can't win any outright trades either due to Spider form's mad DPS, and she can't really get ganked if the elise player is smart.

Here's a tip, while you can't descend on allied wards, you can do it on enemy ones, plop a vision ward in the river bush as opposed to a sight ward when the enemy drops a sight ward there. You now have a free escape.
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#4Diorte(Topic Creator)Posted 1/18/2013 10:24:31 PM
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#5Diorte(Topic Creator)Posted 1/18/2013 10:33:17 PM(edited)
I'm winning lane so far. 1/0/3 to 0/3/0, 107 to 73.

Oh, I'm Irelia.

http://i.imgur.com/rHDvTre.jpg

Yea, either everyone's exaggerating the hell out of Elise top, or Irelia is a good counter to Elise and you guys are just on the Elise-humping train.
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#6thecrossnkightPosted 1/18/2013 10:52:37 PM
Irelia is one of the few I'd straight hate to fight as elise. Unless she preps ahead of time with tanky masteries + tanky runes Irelia straight wins trades. Elise can't poke her either because once Irelia is 3, the moment she gets less HP than elise its an easy wqe-auto-auto. At that point Elise HAS to back out because hiten style is up and shes 50% of her hp behind irelia.

Later on, given irelia not being fed, around level 9, elise can really lay the hurt on her. But prior to that its a pain.
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#7MegaSlimePosted 1/18/2013 10:55:03 PM
Lane matchups is also based on skill.
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#8_HeXPosted 1/18/2013 10:55:06 PM
Never ever lost to Irelia as Elise. You can free harras her every time Q is off CD and if she Q's onto you, Cocoon, Q + W and follow up with spider combo or simply back away. Seriously, Elise craps on anyone who is melee.
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#9Diorte(Topic Creator)Posted 1/18/2013 11:18:31 PM(edited)
_HeX posted...
Never ever lost to Irelia as Elise. You can free harras her every time Q is off CD and if she Q's onto you, Cocoon, Q + W and follow up with spider combo or simply back away. Seriously, Elise craps on anyone who is melee.


I bought magic res, and maybe she wasn't leveling her Q, but it did no damage to me. I always dove on her after she used some spell, usually spit or spider, and then since I'm not stupid and knew her cocoon was coming every time I side-stepped a few of them. When she went into spider form I just walked away. I know spider Elise wants you to stand still and fight, but literally just walking away makes her W go to waste, and by that time I usually had her low enough to W+Q+E onto her to finish her. If I had my ult up, I could just walk up to her and kill her.

Fiddle is also a hard counter to her from what I've seen, and he ganked a couple times, she was helpless.
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#10_HeXPosted 1/18/2013 11:20:07 PM
Diorte posted...
_HeX posted...
Never ever lost to Irelia as Elise. You can free harras her every time Q is off CD and if she Q's onto you, Cocoon, Q + W and follow up with spider combo or simply back away. Seriously, Elise craps on anyone who is melee.


I bought magic res, and maybe she wasn't leveling her Q, but it did no damage to me. I always dove on her after she used some spell, usually spit or spider, and then since I'm not stupid and knew her cocoon was coming every time I side-stepped a few of them. When she went into spider form I just walked away. I know spider Elise wants you to stand still and fight, but literally just walking away makes her W go to waste, and by that time I usually had her low enough to W+Q+E onto her to finish her. If I had my ult up, I could just walk up to her and kill her.

Fiddle is also a hard counter to her from what I've seen, and he ganked a couple times, she was helpless.


The guy you fought was without a doubt bad though, Elise has the upper hand if you factor in someone who's more or less equally skilled. I can always anticipate Irelia dives so I'm ready with the stun at the exact moment as she dives to you, you won't have time to sidestep it.
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