S3 Support Items

#1QuikScopsRKewlPosted 1/19/2013 1:46:35 PM
Okay. With that new Flask price change, is it still worth getting? Or are we going back to the old S2 start? And as far as your core is concerned, I'm assuming it's Shurelya's and Bulwark, yeah?
#2FlameLord23Posted 1/19/2013 1:49:38 PM
When did we leave the season 2 start? I've never fallen behind starting Charm + 3 ward + 2 pots. In fact I don't know anyone who's good at support who starts differently.

Only change is get a Kage's pick instead of HoG and definitely invest in the ruby crystal for aegis or shurelya's early, around 15 minutes.
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#3QuikScopsRKewl(Topic Creator)Posted 1/19/2013 1:53:09 PM
I've been under the impression that Flask + 4 Wards/2 green, 1 pink was the meta.
#4EDumeyPosted 1/19/2013 1:58:32 PM
I'm still getting Flask/2Sight on some support. But only on those I'm not intending to get a Philo Stone on.
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#5FeatherwindPosted 1/19/2013 2:13:47 PM(edited)
I don't think starting with Flask really replaced starting with Charm or Bead even though it was a viable start for some champions.

FlameLord23 posted...
Only change is get a Kage's pick instead of HoG and definitely invest in the ruby crystal for aegis or shurelya's early, around 15 minutes.


Kage's doesn't exactly replace HoG as unlike HoG Kage's doesn't give very good stats. In fact Sightstone feels more like a HoG replacement even though it costs only 125 less and grants half of the health. Kage's is probably fine if you can get it but I wouldn't build it every game. Not to mention Kage's builds into more situational items than HoG did even though that Twin Shadow thing is interesting.

I feel like the removal of HoG was one of the biggest changes in season 3 for bot at least and probably one of the main reasons why champions like Kha'zix and Pantheon are creeping into mid to and bot. Back in the day you could survive then retaliate or even Sona ult or something but now they can jump on you from any position and just kill you :(.
#62Dhas_a_MIGRANEPosted 1/19/2013 2:17:38 PM(edited)
I try to get Sightstone, Kage's, and Philosopher's first then boots if I feel like it but otherwise get Aegis. Eventually I'll get Ruby Sightstone, Shurelya's, and Twin Shadows. The game is usually over by then. I do the normal start from S2
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#7FlameLord23Posted 1/19/2013 2:20:42 PM
don't go for a sight stone. It's much easier just to buy wards and less limiting.
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#8EDumeyPosted 1/19/2013 3:52:58 PM
From: FlameLord23 | #007
don't go for a sight stone. It's much easier just to buy wards and less limiting.


To what extent? Maybe beginning of the game you may feel this way, but it's mathematically PROVEN that sightstone will allow you MUCH more item flexibility.
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