so shyv is AWESOME

#21SwiftToadz(Topic Creator)Posted 1/24/2013 8:31:10 PM
4items only
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#22Snacks23Posted 1/24/2013 8:34:49 PM
does anyone else remember that one thread from ages ago about shyvana having a high body temperature which leaves her in a near constant state of sexual arousal and that her fluid secretions are warm and have the texture of honey?
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#23SwiftToadz(Topic Creator)Posted 1/24/2013 9:34:21 PM
sooo try it
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#24professor xPosted 1/24/2013 9:48:16 PM
Try Shyv vs Sej in 5 vs 5. Good luck getting a single buff as Sej.
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#25_HeXPosted 1/24/2013 10:07:11 PM
flyguy101 posted...
_HeX posted...
flyguy101 posted...
Shyv is great when your team doesn't suck. Problem is in solo que....


How is Shyvana better than Sejuani? Shyvana has no CC, Sejauni has CC coming out of her ass. Shyvana doesn't have a low CD wall jump, Sejuani does.


Shyv has a MUCH better clear? Sej provides more CC to the team, no doubt, but if we're comparing jungler to jungler then Naut is still God-tier CC (along with Leona). What shyv provides is the second fastest clear in the game, great counterganks, good jungle dueling, and a high health tank.


You're still stuck in Season 2. Sejauni's early/mid game was buffed by A LOT when the new Season 3 items were introduced, there is literally nothing Shyvana does that Sejuani can't do just as well. And that's in addition to the things Shyvana can't do.

Counterjungling is not as effective as it used to be and Shyvana isn't even among the top counterjunglers anymore.
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#26Snacks23Posted 1/24/2013 10:09:18 PM
yeah all I've seen of season 3 shyvana is that she's nowhere near the level she was at in season 2. she's almost at a level where she doesn't really have a place in the game if she's in a match with people at the same skill level as the shyvana player, but can obviously destroy if you're way better just like every other champ
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#27SwiftToadz(Topic Creator)Posted 1/25/2013 8:49:13 AM
_HeX posted...
flyguy101 posted...
_HeX posted...
flyguy101 posted...
Shyv is great when your team doesn't suck. Problem is in solo que....


How is Shyvana better than Sejuani? Shyvana has no CC, Sejauni has CC coming out of her ass. Shyvana doesn't have a low CD wall jump, Sejuani does.


Shyv has a MUCH better clear? Sej provides more CC to the team, no doubt, but if we're comparing jungler to jungler then Naut is still God-tier CC (along with Leona). What shyv provides is the second fastest clear in the game, great counterganks, good jungle dueling, and a high health tank.


You're still stuck in Season 2. Sejauni's early/mid game was buffed by A LOT when the new Season 3 items were introduced, there is literally nothing Shyvana does that Sejuani can't do just as well. And that's in addition to the things Shyvana can't do.

Counterjungling is not as effective as it used to be and Shyvana isn't even among the top counterjunglers anymore.


is why i play her top
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#28Reaper_MinionPosted 1/25/2013 9:56:35 AM
She has awesome jungle control. You can essentially farm both jungles without anyone bothering you because you have fast clears and strong dueling (especially with Exhaust). I just warn my teammates that I can't gank unless they do a really good bait for me.
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#29Dark_Luna3Posted 1/25/2013 10:10:28 AM(edited)
MrDinky posted...
i dont get it...

anyway. late game sejuani is shyv, but better.


Fixed.

Let's face it, Shyv is still a powerhouse early game. But yeah, late game she's literally a Sej without CC. Heck a full tank Sej with Liandry's has more overall damage than Shyv with the same tankiness. Shyv is more single target focused I guess though (and can build near-full AD and be a carry -- but that's not realistic). Bleh.

Shyv needs a update. She's only good as a one-trick pony (counter-jungler/farmer). Now that's harder or not worth it. When you know that Sejuani outright outclasses you past 15-20 mins into the game (even assuming Shyv would have more gold at this point), something is wrong.

I suppose her benefit is that if she can force a win early, she's good for doing that. That's what her role has always been, but she's kind of forced to create a big advantage or bust.
#30Reaper_MinionPosted 1/25/2013 10:49:33 AM
How is Shyv single target based? Every single one of her abilities in dragon form (including the ult itself) is AoE. She's extremely potent against clustered enemies.

Anyone that thinks Sejuani is stronger than Shyvana has no idea what they are talking about. A jungler that can barely do her first two clears is not to be compared with Shyvana.
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