What stops nidalee from jungling?

#11MrFail(Topic Creator)Posted 1/27/2013 1:19:51 PM
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If you laned till 6, which is the point where she becomes competent at jungling, that defeated the whole point of jungling in the first place, which is primarily to gain an extra source of experience and gold income for your team, and have control of your side's red and blue buffs. The ganking ability is really a side benefit of jungling. Anyone in lane can go MIA for a gank, after all.


Despite this coming off as a bad idea, I ask one more thing. What if you had nidalee go top 1v2 while you had a better jungler work the jungle until level 6 and they swapped?
#12EnclosurePosted 1/27/2013 1:23:59 PM
Well it would only be a 1v2 if your opponents didn't have a jungler. Not going to address all the potential benefit that brings.
Nid can 1v2 pretty well, being ranged for last hitting, traps to prevent bush ganks, and a heal for sustain. Your jungler may or may not be as good at it.
Your jungler may also simply be better with ganks or jungle clearing post 6 too, so that would have to be taken into account.

Overall probably not a great idea usually, but workable. For example, if your jungler got counter jungled (not your example that had no enemy jungler) and is behind, while nidalee did well in lane, they might switch to allow the original jungler to get some experience and catch up.
Thats more just normal game choices that a team might make though, rather than specifically for Nidalee.
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#13MrFail(Topic Creator)Posted 1/27/2013 1:27:19 PM
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Well it would only be a 1v2 if your opponents didn't have a jungler. Not going to address all the potential benefit that brings.
Nid can 1v2 pretty well, being ranged for last hitting, traps to prevent bush ganks, and a heal for sustain. Your jungler may or may not be as good at it.
Your jungler may also simply be better with ganks or jungle clearing post 6 too, so that would have to be taken into account.

Overall probably not a great idea usually, but workable. For example, if your jungler got counter jungled (not your example that had no enemy jungler) and is behind, while nidalee did well in lane, they might switch to allow the original jungler to get some experience and catch up.
Thats more just normal game choices that a team might make though, rather than specifically for Nidalee.


Thanks for the input. I'm trying to think outside the meta box and apparently this time it wasn't the best thought.
#14MizunoRyuuPosted 1/27/2013 1:30:41 PM
Pre-6 she has no cougar form, and by that level even mages would be able to jungle effectively anyway.
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#15Reaper_MinionPosted 1/27/2013 1:33:22 PM
Because unlike Elise she doesn't have her alternative form until level 6. She'd be a great jungler if Cougar Form wasn't an ult.
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#16BhelliumPosted 1/27/2013 1:36:34 PM(edited)
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While what you say is true, its also easier to dodge the spear the farther it has to travel.


not when it's from fog

biggest problem isn't ganking potential it's clear times, just don't think she has the strength to do it fast enough
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#17iiTryhardPosted 1/27/2013 2:10:53 PM
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If you laned till 6, which is the point where she becomes competent at jungling, that defeated the whole point of jungling in the first place, which is primarily to gain an extra source of experience and gold income for your team, and have control of your side's red and blue buffs. The ganking ability is really a side benefit of jungling. Anyone in lane can go MIA for a gank, after all.


Despite this coming off as a bad idea, I ask one more thing. What if you had nidalee go top 1v2 while you had a better jungler work the jungle until level 6 and they swapped?


Or, heres an idea, don't try to jungle her. Ever.

if you can't get top or mid go bot "support" and take all the kills, like most nidalee's i see
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#18joelpballPosted 1/27/2013 2:21:29 PM
because her spear makes her TOO GOOD AT LANING to waste in the jungle
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#19SlaynPosted 1/27/2013 2:27:00 PM
Better question:

What makes you consider jungling Nidalee? Even if she had cougar form at level 1, what does she offer... it isn't like she would have particularly fast clear times. She has no CC at all. I literally laughed at the part about the spear being good for ganks... are you even 30?
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#20FandomOfRandomPosted 1/27/2013 2:32:40 PM
Junglers usually need some way of CC or be able to sneak up on someone really quickly. Nid doesn't have CC and her gank would not be really consistent other than just straight running into the lane through a bush.
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