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Help me suck less with Elise.... :(

#1fft_ramzaPosted 1/28/2013 8:06:27 AM
So I just bought her, man I love her so much, I love being able to switch between human and spider forms, but gosh is it really difficult to be effective with her, I usually have a good laning phase, manage to farm quite a lot with her "E" but somewhere around mid game I start sucking pretty badly, i usually rush Rylai's, Sorc's Shoes and Hex Revolver, then depending on the situation I go for a Void Staff, Haunting guise and maybe a frozen heart....

Still I've been getting a beating lately, any advice?
Also I'm like the worst jungler ever and usually my team expects me to jungle, any advice on that? (I always almost get killed by the golem, I can't 1v1 it at level 1)
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#2BhelliumPosted 1/28/2013 8:11:21 AM
as far as jungling goes ask for a leash and use armor runes

congrats, you can now jungle
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#3KarmicDragon1Posted 1/28/2013 8:20:55 AM
You manage to farm well with her Rappel/Cocoon? How does that work?
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#4b0omstickPosted 1/28/2013 8:53:51 AM
Take her top lane or mid nothing else.

Go 9/21/0 masteries

Magic pen reds
Health per lvl yellows
magic resist blues
Speed quints

I like to buy a ward and health pots to start.
Don't harass till level 3 its a waste of manna q isn't strong enough till 2 points in it

Core Soc boots and haunting guise.
Here is the best Elise guide, I picked her up a month ago practiced for two weeks, then went into ranked after learning some of her tricks. 8 and 3 ranked and the guide has been an extreme help.

http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=40422-agsutingbdq-elise-build-guide

Here are 2 of my favorite tricks
1) When target is half health. Cast W away from bush, go spider form and Q onto enemy your W spider will jump at them for huge burst. They will run if you haven killed them. Stun them kill them with your human Q

2) Target is low but still trying to farm. Go spider form Cast E on them then Q then human form and they are dead.

last thing. Learning when to use both Human and Spider form E is the key to Elise.
#5b0omstickPosted 1/28/2013 8:55:40 AM(edited)
Also, she can be a fun kill lane support in normal but, not in ranked if you suck you will get reported lol

Oh and Magic Pen is the best thing for her. Her percent health damage means she does a lot of damage with a little AP so you can go super Tanky and still be super bursty.
#6Dota2Posted 1/28/2013 9:19:12 AM
From: fft_ramza | #001
"E"


uh


stop playing elise?

Hex Revolver


this is situational.

From: Bhellium | #002
as far as jungling goes ask for a leash and use armor runes

congrats, you can now jungle


and this
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#7fft_ramza(Topic Creator)Posted 1/28/2013 10:05:39 AM
lol, not "E" sorry I meant "W" the spiderling flinging / skittering frenzy ability
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#8fft_ramza(Topic Creator)Posted 1/28/2013 10:09:04 AM
b0omstick posted...
Take her top lane or mid nothing else.

Go 9/21/0 masteries

Magic pen reds
Health per lvl yellows
magic resist blues
Speed quints

I like to buy a ward and health pots to start.
Don't harass till level 3 its a waste of manna q isn't strong enough till 2 points in it

Core Soc boots and haunting guise.
Here is the best Elise guide, I picked her up a month ago practiced for two weeks, then went into ranked after learning some of her tricks. 8 and 3 ranked and the guide has been an extreme help.

http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=40422-agsutingbdq-elise-build-guide

Here are 2 of my favorite tricks
1) When target is half health. Cast W away from bush, go spider form and Q onto enemy your W spider will jump at them for huge burst. They will run if you haven killed them. Stun them kill them with your human Q

2) Target is low but still trying to farm. Go spider form Cast E on them then Q then human form and they are dead.

last thing. Learning when to use both Human and Spider form E is the key to Elise.


Allright, this sounds good, so the haunting guise is IYO more important to rush than Rylai's? that rune set is great although I don't have that many runes, I'm level 19 and still havent filled my rune page.

Which summoner spells do you suggest? I always pick Flash- Ignite.
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#9Dota2Posted 1/28/2013 10:10:08 AM
From: fft_ramza | #007
Allright, this sounds good, so the haunting guise is IYO more important to rush than Rylai's? that rune set is great although I don't have that many runes, I'm level 19 and still havent filled my rune page.


you cant jungle yet
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#10b0omstickPosted 1/28/2013 10:14:19 AM
Okay here is what you should do with runes, wait till you hit 20, buy the magic pen reds first. Magic Pen right now with her is most important.
Yes haunting guist first. That plus sorc shoes in top lane will make your Q do laughable damage on a short cool down.

I don't consider Ryalis a must on her.