Riot really hates defense.

#1Xano1234Posted 1/31/2013 10:42:40 PM
Pre-Season 3 Update: Lets make defense cost a ton more, take out many of the defensive items, make armor and magic pen more powerful, and make putting more than 15 points into defense mastery tree pointless.

Next update: Lets increase the cost of health items, which became the only cost effective defense item.

I've always played a defensive game and this makes me sad. On tanky/supports where I already don't farm much, this just makes it more difficult to get any of the items that can actually allow me to tank.

Not really game breaking, just kind of annoying.
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#2KuoxPosted 1/31/2013 11:03:33 PM
More deaths = more fun I guess is their logic.
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#3TriangularTwigPosted 1/31/2013 11:05:45 PM
Nerf health without nerfing armor pen too

scumbag riot
#4CheezWhizXPosted 1/31/2013 11:06:32 PM
Didn't they basically make BC a trash-tier item with this patch?
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#5Tali_ZorahPosted 1/31/2013 11:18:13 PM(edited)
So health stacking seems to be the OP thing to do for survivability these days, simply because there's so much easy armpen around that it pretty much makes armor, which we had previously made both less effective and more expensive, completely useless.

Now, I wonder how we can bring health more in line with armor for a defensive stat... I know! We'll keep armpen exactly the same, keep armor as useless as ever, and nerf health! League of Cleavers 4 EVAR!


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CheezWhizX posted...
Didn't they basically make BC a trash-tier item with this patch?


No, it's still good. You just don't stack it anymore, really. Not unless you're in a pubstomp elo with a pubstomp champion, anyway.

Its more to do with how armpen works these days now, anyway. I honestly don't know what was wrong with having %pen factored in AFTER reduction and flat pen, anyway... it was still an awesome thing to get if they stacked armor.
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#6_SanchePosted 1/31/2013 11:46:10 PM
Are you new? Where were you when they nerfed red pots? This game promotes aggresive plays. They have said many times they don't like passive boring play.
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#7AC_DragonfirePosted 1/31/2013 11:47:07 PM
The black cleaver nerf and warmog will take a huge **** on AD bruisers.

Alright guys. Since AD is getting nerfed to hell. Let's play AP more. Since AP mids just got a huge buff with their new item. Other team has lots of AD champions??? NPPPP.

I don't see how nerfing AD this much and then just give AP champions another Defensive item on top of the Haunting Guise and ROA they can build. Heck. I build this item on Swain, I'll literally be an insane Mage Tank.
#8FreshSushiPosted 1/31/2013 11:49:30 PM
Warmogs is just dumb. Like not only is it broken early game on bruisers who can rush it cause their base damages are broken in S3 (yeah Riot didn't bother changing champs to fit with their new items, too lazy), it's so broken even carries are building it now cause damage is just trash. The only people who actually benefited damage wise from S3 are AD casters, that's it, and it's not even them that's OP (when was the last time you saw Urgot? That's right never), it's just Khazix.

I hate S3, the game is just stupid to play.
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#9lordjinPosted 1/31/2013 11:51:00 PM
FreshSushi posted...
Warmogs is just dumb. Like not only is it broken early game on bruisers who can rush it cause their base damages are broken in S3 (yeah Riot didn't bother changing champs to fit with their new items, too lazy), it's so broken even carries are building it now cause damage is just trash. The only people who actually benefited damage wise from S3 are AD casters, that's it, and it's not even them that's OP (when was the last time you saw Urgot? That's right never), it's just Khazix.

I hate S3, the game is just stupid to play.



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#10FreshSushiPosted 1/31/2013 11:52:21 PM
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