Nrrrggghhh. Sightstone price increase. Worth rushing anymore?

#21Suffer_NotPosted 2/2/2013 1:42:55 AM
From: FlameLord23 | #002
See the thing is, sightstone wasn't even worth it the way it was. Now? It's still not worth it. I've got the math somewhere if you want it.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/oldmaneyebrows/22729-why-and-how-supports-should-rush-sightstone

You mean that math? The math that implies you really should have been rushing sightstone?
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#22Earthbound360(Topic Creator)Posted 2/2/2013 9:54:19 AM
Suffer_Not posted...
From: FlameLord23 | #002
See the thing is, sightstone wasn't even worth it the way it was. Now? It's still not worth it. I've got the math somewhere if you want it.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/oldmaneyebrows/22729-why-and-how-supports-should-rush-sightstone

You mean that math? The math that implies you really should have been rushing sightstone?


This is exactly the page I read the first time. Thank you for the post.

But I'm still at a loss here (none of these answers seem very concrete).
Basic start of Faerie, 2 pots, 2 wards, 1 pink, and the mastery items (blue ward and bicuit) means I could stay in lane long enough for just about 700g via sustain and map knowledge.

Now, I have 2 options as far as I can tell.

1. Go back and buy the Philo stone+wards, save up for pieces of the Sighstone until I can get it.
2. Go back and buy the Ruby Crystal+wards, save up for the finished Sighstone and get Philo whenever possible.

Thoughts?
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#23Golden_MeanPosted 2/2/2013 10:07:15 AM
Krepo gets it first back. Then again he backs at like 1k gold. And starts Doran's Shield.
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#24VulgusRuinaPosted 2/2/2013 10:16:48 AM
What I usually do when I support is Regen Bead, Fairy Charm, a ward and pots. I already have the Explorer Ward and the Biscuit. Then on first back, I get the philo stone, and wards. the second back, sightstone. Now since the change I go back my second time and get a Ruby Crystal, and wards (usually a bunch of them, three or four.) Then when I get a chance, check my needs.:

Do I need more mana regen?
If yes, mana manipulator and wards.
If no, then next question.

Do I need more AP/Gp5?
If yes, amplifying Tome or Kages Lucky pick and wards
If no, then next question.

Can I use more wards?
If yes, sightstone and wards
If no. next step.

Aura Items!

TL;DR: It really depends on how my lane is going.
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#25G0dSlay3rPosted 2/2/2013 10:22:39 AM
I only "rushed" it as the first item if we were winning bot hard since lvl 1 and it didn't feel like things would turn around.

That way, i could spam free wards, skip GP/5 items and start racking up assist gold for actually helpful items that will snowball me even further with useful stats like HP, Armor or aura items.
#26CarbonightsPosted 2/2/2013 11:00:40 AM
I would say no.

Even if it's still technically a better GP/10 item (in practice) I'd much prefer the extra mana regen and 25 AP from getting Philo and Lucky Pick to the 180 HP.

I always get it eventually, but it's definitely not worth getting so early.
#27TriangularTwigPosted 2/2/2013 11:12:03 AM
its a great idea to rush it if you can. i always have pre-patch. now i dunno if ill be able to but I will always get it on my first back whenever I can. its too good of an item. I can get philo's + kage's after.