Haunting Guise core on most AP champs?

#1POkemon_PoWeRPosted 2/3/2013 12:16:52 AM
Seems like everyone AP mid/AP top is going Haunting Guise first?
Exceptions to people like Ryze, Galio, etc
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#2aHappySackaPosted 2/3/2013 12:18:58 AM
Well spell pen is much better due to the changes from S2, not to mention it builds into the item that will help counter hp stacking which everyone is doing right now.
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#3Frost_shock_FTWPosted 2/3/2013 12:19:58 AM
Only if you definitely want Liandry's mid-late game or benefit from lots of penetration early and sell it later.

So that's pretty much Amumu, Singed, and maybe Swain for the former and Kat for the latter. It's actually not that good on a lot of champions.
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#4DeadpooL7Posted 2/3/2013 12:21:42 AM
Also the base movespeed increase and boots movespeed decrease has made it so you dont have to build tier 2 boots real fast for the speed, so then it becomes a better buy to buy Guise for the spell pen, health and AP, than the sorc boots for spell pen.
#5POkemon_PoWeR(Topic Creator)Posted 2/3/2013 12:26:10 AM
Frost_shock_FTW posted...
Only if you definitely want Liandry's mid-late game or benefit from lots of penetration early and sell it later.

So that's pretty much Amumu, Singed, and maybe Swain for the former and Kat for the latter. It's actually not that good on a lot of champions.


Never seen an Amumu or Swain with Liandry's but yes I agree for Singed and Kat.
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#6FreshSushiPosted 2/3/2013 12:41:18 AM
I get it if I'm getting boots of mobility to roam. Otherwise meh, rather rush deathcap/hourglass/dfg.
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#7YourLuckPosted 2/3/2013 1:43:31 AM
Liandry's is good on like Cass, Singed, Swain, Morde, anyone who has a poke on a short enough cooldown really.
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#8UnderwaterAirPosted 2/3/2013 1:45:53 AM
Well spell pen is much better due to the changes from S2, not to mention it builds into the item that will help counter hp stacking which everyone is doing right now.

That pretty much sums up all the discussion that needs to be done here. o_o
We should debate which glyphs to use now in S3. I'm currently trying out magic penetration marks AND glyphs now on all my AP rune pages. :(
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#9FreshSushiPosted 2/3/2013 2:00:35 AM
YourLuck posted...
Liandry's is good on like Cass, Singed, Swain, Morde, anyone who has a poke on a short enough cooldown really.


funny
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#10FreshSushiPosted 2/3/2013 2:02:09 AM
aHappySacka posted...
Well spell pen is much better due to the changes from S2, not to mention it builds into the item that will help counter hp stacking which everyone is doing right now.


dat crack. Pen is pretty useful, too bad NOBODY is building MR anymore. Health > MR. Pen does nothing vs HP.
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