This patch made Akali viable jungler

#1Stalky24Posted 2/14/2013 2:00:33 AM
Without need of pre-made page, but having both bonuses and jungle-specific mastery/runes, Akali's jungle got a lot healthier. She clears relatively fast, her ganks pre-lvl 6 are kinda meh, but work (you drop shroud to block their way to turret and slow them, catch them and hope your damage and laner's will be enough), her ganks post-lvl 6 are godlike. And she still snowballs as hard as Akali does.
#2g-cube_mastaPosted 2/14/2013 2:05:02 AM
From: Stalky24 | #001
She clears relatively fast


Relative to what? Cause it may be passable but it is not fast. It's like Shen speed.

Ganks where the only cc is a tickling slow are never "god like." She provides a lot of damage but Shyvana suffers from this same problem.

She also won't get near the farm she needs in the jungle to get tanky after buying damage before her opponents can kill her.

I think it'll be a gimmicky "normals" jungle with very little competitive upside.
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#3Susan0Posted 2/14/2013 2:11:45 AM(edited)
:/ I hate riot changing her passive. Ppl will start trying her in all possible roles now, and eventually Riot will nerf her to oblivion. >:|
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#4Stalky24(Topic Creator)Posted 2/14/2013 2:50:15 AM
g-cube_masta posted...
From: Stalky24 | #001
She clears relatively fast


Relative to what? Cause it may be passable but it is not fast. It's like Shen speed.

Ganks where the only cc is a tickling slow are never "god like." She provides a lot of damage but Shyvana suffers from this same problem.

She also won't get near the farm she needs in the jungle to get tanky after buying damage before her opponents can kill her.

I think it'll be a gimmicky "normals" jungle with very little competitive upside.


She is bit slower than Zed, a lot faster than Shen.
Akali has highest base attack speed in the game. That alone makes her good clearer.
Her Q gives same singletarget DPS as Shyvana's burnout lvl 1.
Her clear time on Wolves>Blue>Wraiths>Wolves>Red>Wraiths to hit lvl 4 is ~2:05 with no leash or help. To compare, Zed's is ~1:55 on same path, but with ~150 less hp, Shen is ~2:40, while staying preety much at max HP most of the time.

Her ganks are godlike because of how much base damage she has on top of multiple gapclosers 3 compared to Zed's 2, Diana's 2 and Kha'zix's 1. She can burst down a squishy quite a bit even without items.

Yes, she doesnt get as much gold as laners. Same problem has every assassin jungler. Should people just play supports and tanks in jungle? That is so Season 2, dude.
#5Reaper_MinionPosted 2/14/2013 2:57:52 AM
A bit slower than Zed? Isn't he one of the fastest clearers in the game?

Either way, her pre-6 ganks are pretty bad. High damage output won't do a lot when you have little to no CC and no gap closer. No real jungle pressure for 7-8 minutes is bad. She's not any better than WW.
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#6Stalky24(Topic Creator)Posted 2/14/2013 3:01:13 AM
Reaper_Minion posted...
A bit slower than Zed? Isn't he one of the fastest clearers in the game?


Exactly.
#7BlocktopusPosted 2/18/2013 8:38:44 PM
Reaper_Minion posted...
A bit slower than Zed? Isn't he one of the fastest clearers in the game?

Either way, her pre-6 ganks are pretty bad. High damage output won't do a lot when you have little to no CC and no gap closer. No real jungle pressure for 7-8 minutes is bad. She's not any better than WW.


Pretty sure Warwick can't gank until his ult is up again, which is like what, 90 seconds after he uses it? Akali's ult is up almost all the time so she can constantly gank after 6. That's better than WW by a longshot.
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#8TomorrowDogPosted 2/18/2013 8:49:31 PM
Not to mention the rest of Warwick's kit has problems when it comes to jungling. Hitting level 6 doesn't solve all of his problems because he is still choosing between leveling a nuke and a situational gap closer that don't help him clear his jungle and an attack speed steroid that hardly helps him gank.
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#9TomorrowDogPosted 2/19/2013 11:46:56 PM
<_< So I tried it and really enjoyed it, I give it my stamp of approval. I power-level to 6 and then just pressure like crazy. Her sustain is really awesome thanks to spell vamping off of smite, pretty much just chunk lanes, tower dive like a boss, and farm forever and don't have to recall.
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#10kiljaedenPosted 2/19/2013 11:59:43 PM
Been doing it for a while. It was viable at s3 start,
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