How do you stop Garen

#11ISF_Lmaokai_TMHPosted 2/17/2013 8:54:40 AM
Shadow_King56 posted...
ISF_Lmaokai_TMH posted...
Shadow_King56 posted...
Garen is one of those champs where beating him in lane doesn't matter. Even if he goes lets say 0-5 he will still dominate late game hard with a BC, Sunfire cape, and Warmogs alone. Your objective is not to beat him in lane but to try to shut him down as long as possible. To that extent Elise is a horrible pick. She can beat him in lane, but she will never snowball hard enough to counter him late game because she isn't built to carry a tem like Garen is. You're best bet against Garen is someone who can carry and snowball equally as hard so go with Kayle or Jax.


Elise won't be trying to counter him late game. Elise is going to turn into a spider late game and automatically leaprape your ADC instantly and no flash is going to save you.


And then Garen spins himself into a quadrakill. Elise is no where near as threatening late game as Garen, so what's the point of winning the lane if your lane opponent can still solo your entire team? Jax can do what Elise does, but even faster, and is tanky enough to square off late game against Garen so after popping the ADC he won't die like Elise, he'll run to the next target and kill it and then hold off Garen if need be. Same with Kayle.


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#12GanonsSpiritPosted 2/17/2013 8:56:04 AM
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#13Eclipse008Posted 2/17/2013 9:28:17 AM
ISF_Lmaokai_TMH posted...
Shadow_King56 posted...
ISF_Lmaokai_TMH posted...
Shadow_King56 posted...
Garen is one of those champs where beating him in lane doesn't matter. Even if he goes lets say 0-5 he will still dominate late game hard with a BC, Sunfire cape, and Warmogs alone. Your objective is not to beat him in lane but to try to shut him down as long as possible. To that extent Elise is a horrible pick. She can beat him in lane, but she will never snowball hard enough to counter him late game because she isn't built to carry a tem like Garen is. You're best bet against Garen is someone who can carry and snowball equally as hard so go with Kayle or Jax.


Elise won't be trying to counter him late game. Elise is going to turn into a spider late game and automatically leaprape your ADC instantly and no flash is going to save you.


And then Garen spins himself into a quadrakill. Elise is no where near as threatening late game as Garen, so what's the point of winning the lane if your lane opponent can still solo your entire team? Jax can do what Elise does, but even faster, and is tanky enough to square off late game against Garen so after popping the ADC he won't die like Elise, he'll run to the next target and kill it and then hold off Garen if need be. Same with Kayle.


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#14ISF_Lmaokai_TMHPosted 2/17/2013 9:30:58 AM
Eclipse008 posted...
ISF_Lmaokai_TMH posted...
Shadow_King56 posted...
ISF_Lmaokai_TMH posted...
Shadow_King56 posted...
Garen is one of those champs where beating him in lane doesn't matter. Even if he goes lets say 0-5 he will still dominate late game hard with a BC, Sunfire cape, and Warmogs alone. Your objective is not to beat him in lane but to try to shut him down as long as possible. To that extent Elise is a horrible pick. She can beat him in lane, but she will never snowball hard enough to counter him late game because she isn't built to carry a tem like Garen is. You're best bet against Garen is someone who can carry and snowball equally as hard so go with Kayle or Jax.


Elise won't be trying to counter him late game. Elise is going to turn into a spider late game and automatically leaprape your ADC instantly and no flash is going to save you.


And then Garen spins himself into a quadrakill. Elise is no where near as threatening late game as Garen, so what's the point of winning the lane if your lane opponent can still solo your entire team? Jax can do what Elise does, but even faster, and is tanky enough to square off late game against Garen so after popping the ADC he won't die like Elise, he'll run to the next target and kill it and then hold off Garen if need be. Same with Kayle.


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#15_HeXPosted 2/17/2013 9:34:34 AM
Shadow_King56 posted...
ISF_Lmaokai_TMH posted...
Shadow_King56 posted...
Garen is one of those champs where beating him in lane doesn't matter. Even if he goes lets say 0-5 he will still dominate late game hard with a BC, Sunfire cape, and Warmogs alone. Your objective is not to beat him in lane but to try to shut him down as long as possible. To that extent Elise is a horrible pick. She can beat him in lane, but she will never snowball hard enough to counter him late game because she isn't built to carry a tem like Garen is. You're best bet against Garen is someone who can carry and snowball equally as hard so go with Kayle or Jax.


Elise won't be trying to counter him late game. Elise is going to turn into a spider late game and automatically leaprape your ADC instantly and no flash is going to save you.


And then Garen spins himself into a quadrakill. Elise is no where near as threatening late game as Garen, so what's the point of winning the lane if your lane opponent can still solo your entire team? Jax can do what Elise does, but even faster, and is tanky enough to square off late game against Garen so after popping the ADC he won't die like Elise, he'll run to the next target and kill it and then hold off Garen if need be. Same with Kayle.


Haha rofl.

Except Elise poops on Garen in lane which means one out of two things is going to happen; Garen feeds her several kills and she snowballs to hell or she's gonna completely shut him down in lane and deny him farm and he won't even get his core items by the time teamfights start.
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#16Stalky24Posted 2/17/2013 9:45:03 AM
Eclipse008 posted...
ISF_Lmaokai_TMH posted...
Shadow_King56 posted...
ISF_Lmaokai_TMH posted...
Shadow_King56 posted...
Garen is one of those champs where beating him in lane doesn't matter. Even if he goes lets say 0-5 he will still dominate late game hard with a BC, Sunfire cape, and Warmogs alone. Your objective is not to beat him in lane but to try to shut him down as long as possible. To that extent Elise is a horrible pick. She can beat him in lane, but she will never snowball hard enough to counter him late game because she isn't built to carry a tem like Garen is. You're best bet against Garen is someone who can carry and snowball equally as hard so go with Kayle or Jax.


Elise won't be trying to counter him late game. Elise is going to turn into a spider late game and automatically leaprape your ADC instantly and no flash is going to save you.


And then Garen spins himself into a quadrakill. Elise is no where near as threatening late game as Garen, so what's the point of winning the lane if your lane opponent can still solo your entire team? Jax can do what Elise does, but even faster, and is tanky enough to square off late game against Garen so after popping the ADC he won't die like Elise, he'll run to the next target and kill it and then hold off Garen if need be. Same with Kayle.


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There are several things that will happen:
- Elise gets kills on Garen in lane and gets fed. Fed Elise is tank and assassin in one champion bursting down enemy carry no matter where it stands.
- Garen enters lategame and tries to fight Elise. Elise's dmg is %hp and MPen. 1000HP Garen and 4000HP Garen die in same speed.
- Any competent support gets Shurelia's vs Garen and pops it whenever he tries to spin. GG kitable champion gets kited and dies.
#17Dark_DcPosted 2/17/2013 9:58:40 AM
Shadow_King56 posted...
ISF_Lmaokai_TMH posted...
Shadow_King56 posted...
Garen is one of those champs where beating him in lane doesn't matter. Even if he goes lets say 0-5 he will still dominate late game hard with a BC, Sunfire cape, and Warmogs alone. Your objective is not to beat him in lane but to try to shut him down as long as possible. To that extent Elise is a horrible pick. She can beat him in lane, but she will never snowball hard enough to counter him late game because she isn't built to carry a tem like Garen is. You're best bet against Garen is someone who can carry and snowball equally as hard so go with Kayle or Jax.


Elise won't be trying to counter him late game. Elise is going to turn into a spider late game and automatically leaprape your ADC instantly and no flash is going to save you.


And then Garen spins himself into a quadrakill. Elise is no where near as threatening late game as Garen, so what's the point of winning the lane if your lane opponent can still solo your entire team? Jax can do what Elise does, but even faster, and is tanky enough to square off late game against Garen so after popping the ADC he won't die like Elise, he'll run to the next target and kill it and then hold off Garen if need be. Same with Kayle.


Elise is more about poking and engaging when they are low not a dive right in champ like garen. Garen denied farm because he is getting **** on means he can't build those items as quickly or in time for teamfights. Not to mention a fed elise will still own him with %hp dmg. Garen is strong but just like anyone else he will lose of he can't get the proper items.
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