what is the magic number for atma now?

#11The-World-SevenPosted 2/19/2013 8:45:35 AM
thecrossnkight posted...
In fact, I'm kinda wondering why ADC's don't go Atma's -> Vamp scepter. It costs less than BT, gives less AD but does give critchance, and it gives AR.

There is no ADC that would rather build a chain vest early rather than damage.
Crits are a late game stat that scale with AD, but you need to have the AD. Without it, crits are nothing.
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#12MagiaIcePosted 2/19/2013 9:06:05 AM
From: The-World-Seven | #011
thecrossnkight posted...
In fact, I'm kinda wondering why ADC's don't go Atma's -> Vamp scepter. It costs less than BT, gives less AD but does give critchance, and it gives AR.

There is no ADC that would rather build a chain vest early rather than damage.
Crits are a late game stat that scale with AD, but you need to have the AD. Without it, crits are nothing.

SotD on Vayne early game says hi.
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#13RihawfPosted 2/19/2013 9:07:49 AM
MagiaIce posted...
From: The-World-Seven | #011
thecrossnkight posted...
In fact, I'm kinda wondering why ADC's don't go Atma's -> Vamp scepter. It costs less than BT, gives less AD but does give critchance, and it gives AR.

There is no ADC that would rather build a chain vest early rather than damage.
Crits are a late game stat that scale with AD, but you need to have the AD. Without it, crits are nothing.

SotD on Vayne early game says hi.


Now, wonder what her ult do and her Q does
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#14SoulknightX0Posted 2/19/2013 9:11:10 AM
Rihawf posted...
MagiaIce posted...
From: The-World-Seven | #011
thecrossnkight posted...
In fact, I'm kinda wondering why ADC's don't go Atma's -> Vamp scepter. It costs less than BT, gives less AD but does give critchance, and it gives AR.

There is no ADC that would rather build a chain vest early rather than damage.
Crits are a late game stat that scale with AD, but you need to have the AD. Without it, crits are nothing.

SotD on Vayne early game says hi.


Now, wonder what her ult do and her Q does


Vayne crits on tumble procs are calculated as [AD]x[crit modifier] + [Q modifier]x[AD]

The bonus damage doesn't crit
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#15darkman95Posted 2/19/2013 9:12:56 AM
I say it's worth getting on tanks. It works wonders on Garen and Olaf, the extra armor and AD help a lot thanks to their insane ratios. Garen with Sunfrie Cape and Atmas is GG.
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#16The-World-SevenPosted 2/19/2013 9:14:19 AM
MagiaIce posted...
From: The-World-Seven | #011
thecrossnkight posted...
In fact, I'm kinda wondering why ADC's don't go Atma's -> Vamp scepter. It costs less than BT, gives less AD but does give critchance, and it gives AR.

There is no ADC that would rather build a chain vest early rather than damage.
Crits are a late game stat that scale with AD, but you need to have the AD. Without it, crits are nothing.

SotD on Vayne early game says hi.

but we're talking about atma's here
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#17XxAzerothxXPosted 2/19/2013 10:13:23 AM
Atma's on Graves seems like it'd be incredible. He'd tell Brusiers to f*** right off.

Perhaps something like

Boots/3 -> double doran's -> vamp -> Atma's -> Zeal -> LW -> BT -> ???
#18EDumeyPosted 2/19/2013 11:12:34 AM
From: XxAzerothxX | #017
Atma's on Graves seems like it'd be incredible. He'd tell Brusiers to f*** right off.

Perhaps something like

Boots/3 -> double doran's -> vamp -> Atma's -> Zeal -> LW -> BT -> ???


If you're already getting Atma's, then you might as well get a Frozen Mallet for tankyiness and kiting. Synergizes well.

But I still don't really see why you'd do that over other items.

Yes, it is cost efficient, but it is not slot efficient.
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#19happyscrub1Posted 2/19/2013 11:31:21 AM
EDumey posted...
From: XxAzerothxX | #017
Atma's on Graves seems like it'd be incredible. He'd tell Brusiers to f*** right off.

Perhaps something like

Boots/3 -> double doran's -> vamp -> Atma's -> Zeal -> LW -> BT -> ???


If you're already getting Atma's, then you might as well get a Frozen Mallet for tankyiness and kiting. Synergizes well.

But I still don't really see why you'd do that over other items.

Yes, it is cost efficient, but it is not slot efficient.


Not saying you are right but....

Slot efficient only matters if you get full build. And by that time, gold is thrown around like candy if it's an even game. But if you are ahead and fed, carry better and end the game.
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#20SlaynPosted 2/19/2013 11:36:31 AM
Funny how the meta changed to high hp for everyone and yet Atma's still isn't used. It receivedf such a small nerf. I never bought an Atmas before the 3k hp mark.
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