Will AP Tryndamere still be good after the nerfs?

#1yamas11Posted 2/22/2013 1:40:33 PM
His total healing ratio at 100 fury will be 1.2. Problem is landing those autos safely, but if you're able to make it to the split pushing phase, you should be able to maintain this.
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#2aiiirikPosted 2/22/2013 1:53:51 PM
As long as you are split pushing, getting rage is np.

However, one of his biggest strengths at the moment is the fact that he can heal every 8 seconds for 80% of his max health and he doesn't need fury at all. That's what makes him broken as he is.

I think AP trynd will go back to being useless after the patch, as he should be.
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#3centurion911Posted 2/22/2013 1:55:08 PM
AP Trynd will no longer have the safe laning phase he has now.

So he won't be close to as good
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#4EDumeyPosted 2/22/2013 2:05:38 PM
His laning phase will be harder, which was his hardest time anyway. His teamfight is severely gimped, which is where he was kinda shining. His split push is still fine. You can split push for forever and never get caught out.
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#5cha0s zer0Posted 2/22/2013 2:24:45 PM
they didn't do anything to his E though right like it's still at the 1 ap ratio?
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#6HowardsPosted 2/22/2013 2:29:54 PM
aiiirik posted...
As long as you are split pushing, getting rage is np.

However, one of his biggest strengths at the moment is the fact that he can heal every 8 seconds for 80% of his max health and he doesn't need fury at all. That's what makes him broken as he is.

I think AP trynd will go back to being useless after the patch, as he should be.


I have a question, and it's not just for you. If AP trynd should be useless, then why even have AP ratios on these moves at all?? Why give Rengar or Yi or whoever AP ratios on ANYTHING if they are completely disincentivized from building any sort of AP?

Just give ALL of these dudes AD ratios like MF's ult and BAM, more viable right? Just like MF right?
#7JaggiJumperPosted 2/22/2013 3:05:07 PM
EDumey posted...
His laning phase will be harder, which was his hardest time anyway. His teamfight is severely gimped, which is where he was kinda shining. His split push is still fine. You can split push for forever and never get caught out.


Did I just read that?
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#8bighairycamelPosted 2/22/2013 3:08:48 PM
Howards posted...
aiiirik posted...
As long as you are split pushing, getting rage is np.

However, one of his biggest strengths at the moment is the fact that he can heal every 8 seconds for 80% of his max health and he doesn't need fury at all. That's what makes him broken as he is.

I think AP trynd will go back to being useless after the patch, as he should be.


I have a question, and it's not just for you. If AP trynd should be useless, then why even have AP ratios on these moves at all?? Why give Rengar or Yi or whoever AP ratios on ANYTHING if they are completely disincentivized from building any sort of AP?

Just give ALL of these dudes AD ratios like MF's ult and BAM, more viable right? Just like MF right?


Well Yi shouldn't be included in that mix, he is still viable with an AP build, but the rest I agree with. Always seemed stupid to me how they mix and match that crap. Like Urgot's shield is the only thing that benefits from AP but building a single AP item on him is just dumb.
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#9SoulknightX0Posted 2/22/2013 3:12:08 PM(edited)
bighairycamel posted...
Howards posted...
aiiirik posted...
As long as you are split pushing, getting rage is np.

However, one of his biggest strengths at the moment is the fact that he can heal every 8 seconds for 80% of his max health and he doesn't need fury at all. That's what makes him broken as he is.

I think AP trynd will go back to being useless after the patch, as he should be.


I have a question, and it's not just for you. If AP trynd should be useless, then why even have AP ratios on these moves at all?? Why give Rengar or Yi or whoever AP ratios on ANYTHING if they are completely disincentivized from building any sort of AP?

Just give ALL of these dudes AD ratios like MF's ult and BAM, more viable right? Just like MF right?


Well Yi shouldn't be included in that mix, he is still viable with an AP build, but the rest I agree with. Always seemed stupid to me how they mix and match that crap. Like Urgot's shield is the only thing that benefits from AP but building a single AP item on him is just dumb.


I'm sure building an AP item on someone where the only benefit is defensively oriented, especially with someone who bullies as hard as urgot is feasible and smart ^_^

Imagine how annoying urgot would be if he had that shield scale with AD

ONTOPIC: The nerf got altered to .3 w/ 0.012 per point of rage aka now you get the 1.5 ap ratio if you do it at full health
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#10WolferPosted 2/22/2013 3:15:27 PM
You could always build Iceborn Gauntlet on Urgot.

I feel like random AP ratios is fine, but itemization doesn't really take advantage of it. It's basically just Sheen that gives AP to AD champions.
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