So the Sejuani guide was made by an 800 elo dude

#81EcchiBakaPosted 2/23/2013 4:15:43 AM
CrazyFunkyMasao posted...
Black_Assassin posted...
SharperKnives posted...
xVashTS98x posted...
TC seems like a GIANT ass.

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#82Dark_Luna3Posted 2/23/2013 6:45:58 AM(edited)
KloudtheYoukai posted...
CrazyFunkyMasao posted...
Black_Assassin posted...
SharperKnives posted...
xVashTS98x posted...
TC seems like a GIANT ass.


They're... Passionate, I'll admit.

As for CDR on Sej -- There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. I have found more success with Ionian's than otherwise, personally (unless I build something like Visage). It sheds 20 secs off your ult aside from anything else, which keeps your ganks/engages at a good flow.

Also, Locket is a great item. It's 50 health less and 10 armor less than Sunfire for 650 less gold, while giving a shield. And CDR. After theory crafting -- it's just plain efficient. I don't see how Sunfire is a 'tankier' option that I've seen said somewhere in this topic.

So Kindlegem is also fine. Spirit Visage is great too. CDR is extremely powerful if it means you can use your entire combo twice when you'll otherwise be only be able to use it once. That sweetspot is often hit at around 30% CDR for Sej. A number you'll want to reach before lategame at the very least. Having your dash on a 7-8 second cooldown is extremely beneficial.
#83_Yag_Posted 2/23/2013 6:45:29 AM
wait wait....people actually look at the guides here? lol...if thats the case they deserve to be trolled.
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#84dennis941012Posted 2/23/2013 6:46:12 AM
From: CrazyFunkyMasao | #360
Black_Assassin posted...
SharperKnives posted...
xVashTS98x posted...
TC seems like a GIANT ass.

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#85anilEhilatedPosted 2/23/2013 6:47:55 AM
See now I'm considering writing a Ziggs guide just for ****s and giggles.
Then again, anyone who recommends maxing Q over E on Sej presumably never played her.
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#86Dark_Luna3Posted 2/23/2013 6:58:25 AM
anilEhilated posted...
See now I'm considering writing a Ziggs guide just for ****s and giggles.
Then again, anyone who recommends maxing Q over E on Sej presumably never played her.


In Season 2 I actually used to go E > Q > W fairly often (usually to maximise utility). Jungling was easy and E+Q is decent burst.

Season 3 has made W dominant because of the health meta. So W > E > Q is best. I would never max E last though, it has to be at least rank 3 to be considered a strong slow. I usually get to rank 2 before level 6.

Q is flawed in that it often doesn't feel enough of a one-point wonder though. The cooldown is far too long without either ranks or CDR. So you're better off getting CDR to offset that.
#87WolfMasterZeroPosted 2/23/2013 6:58:48 AM
Sticky requested.
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#88Try_Harder_NubzPosted 2/23/2013 7:14:54 AM
he wrote a guide that works for him and if it gets results who honestly cares

TC sounds like someone who enjoys slapping kittens for a living
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#89PhoenixNine(Topic Creator)Posted 2/23/2013 11:31:01 AM
I came off too sharp, sorry about that.

No I don't max E first (R > W > E > Q priority). In fact, W Q W E W R (usually), etc.

I'm not a giant ass, I just don't like people being mislead. If you're going to post a guide, inform yourself as best you can and leave it to someone who has sufficient experience against competent people (my suggestion).

This escalated poorly, mostly due to my wording (I did come off pretty harsh).

Oh well.
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#90AkiraRagnasPosted 2/23/2013 11:54:59 AM
LaqOfInterest posted...
First I wanted to be on TC's side, then I realized that I have a ****ty guide, too, so, uh. I guess I'll settle for http://i.imgur.com/iz84bqi.gif


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