Am I the only who thinks that Darius and Garen are extremely OP?

#21marceloxlrPosted 2/26/2013 7:03:26 AM
It's funny how people complain about Garen but completly forget about how Yokick is ridiculous on top as well.
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#22ThyCorndogPosted 2/26/2013 7:06:07 AM
yeah Yorick's sustain is disgusting

the toughest opponents for me up top are Elise, Jayce and Yorick (in no particular order)
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#23Reaper_MinionPosted 2/26/2013 7:07:37 AM
From: _HeX | Posted: 2/26/2013 5:45:22 PM | #016

Garen is too strong, but Riot hasn't noticed yet.

Yes they did and they are nerfing him accordingly. The problem is that he's overshadowed by Renekton, the other resourceless lane bully.
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#24AthinielPosted 2/26/2013 8:36:16 AM
Neither are OP. If you think they are then learn to kite.
#25ThyCorndogPosted 2/26/2013 8:39:51 AM
What happened to Riven? She was steamrolling top like crazy not too long ago. Was she just fotm until people learned to counter her?
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#26MegeasPosted 2/26/2013 8:57:42 AM
ThyCorndog posted...
What happened to Riven? She was steamrolling top like crazy not too long ago. Was she just fotm until people learned to counter her?


Riven always has been pretty squishy and needs a few kills to snowball. Even then they did nerf her fairly recently to reduce her snowballing.


Really though Garen and Darius are easy to play and countering them tends to be on the people who play against them over playing the champ well. This leads to them dominating solo queue which is less about champion selection and more about who can have there character move and use a skill shot at the same time.

A lot of the most popular champs in normals are champs that have some sort of strength that needs to be countered in some way. That's why you see champs like Garen and Darius top, Kat mid, Blitz bot and Amumu jungle. Each of these champs have some sort of mechanic that needs you to counter or defend yourself from in order to win. That's much harder to expect in normals. especially with bruisers and assassins being popular and casters with CC are less popular.
#27UnderwaterAirPosted 2/26/2013 9:39:03 AM
Yorick bullies both relatively easily and does better in lategame than either of them.
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#28POkemon_PoWeRPosted 2/26/2013 9:45:22 AM
marceloxlr posted...
It's funny how people complain about Garen but completly forget about how Yokick is ridiculous on top as well.


At least Yorick has mana and you can push him out of lane once he goes oom during the first couple of minutes into the game (Before he gets tear). All Garen has to do is stay back and have his passive active and all his health is back. Want to AA him to stop it? Enjoy getting Q'd and E'd, bringing you down to 50% health.

AD/AP Nidalee outsustains Yorick once you get Chalice.
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#29UnderwaterAirPosted 2/26/2013 9:55:43 AM
Spend 880 on a chalice to go along with your tear and you can thank me later.
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#30plasmatic5Posted 2/26/2013 10:36:49 AM
I would love to see a change to his Q. If he's going towards an enemy, he gets the movespeed buff (like Vayne) but if he's going away from the enemy, he doesn't get it (or it's halved or something). I would actually love to see that change on WW's bloodscent because it makes perfect sense for that to only give him movespeed when he's going towards an enemy with low health. But they would have to buff WW in some other way since he isn't very good right now and can't handle a nerf.
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