BOTRK Discussion

#1SeaIntoTheSkyPosted 3/1/2013 3:32:11 PM
With the new changes to BoTRK I can see it as a possible first item buy on some ADCs such as Vayne and Kogma. It is a nice mix since it allows for both a smaller version of BT mixed with a smaller version of PD/Shiv to get both of them ready to hyper carry. Add in a little extra AD it may give the a good single item pick up going into mid game. I'll have to test it out to see, but what are your thoughts?

Blade of the Ruined King

These changes make Blade of the Ruined King a more universally useful item for Attack Damage champions and allow it to better fulfill its role in their arsenal as an item to combat high Health targets.
Recipe Changed: Dagger + Dagger + Bilgewater Cutlass + 650 gold = 2850 gold
Attack Damage reduced to 30 from 45
Now grants 40% Attack Speed
Life Steal increased to 15% from 10%
UNIQUE Passive adjusted to "Deals 5% of the target's current Health in bonus physical damage (max 90 damage vs. monsters and minions) on hit"
UNIQUE Active changed to "Deals 15% of target champion's maximum Health as physical damage (min. 100), heals for the same amount, and steals 30% of the target's Movement Speed for 4 seconds (60 second cooldown)"
UNIQUE Active range increased to 500 from 400
#2Edge4o7_Posted 3/1/2013 3:32:21 PM
op
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#3realfreakoPosted 3/1/2013 3:36:00 PM
Just plain OP
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#4EDumeyPosted 3/1/2013 3:45:17 PM
The real question is when you're crossing your first real power threshold.

Sure it's a great item for mid-game now, but it certainly isn't the same killing force as IE/PD/LW, which is the major high damage DPS. Do you get BotRK/Shiv/LW instead? It's cheaper, meaning you get to that three item threshold earlier than your opponents, but is that worth it? Do you sacrifice crits entirely at this point and finish your damage with a BT so you actually have some base AD to write home about, or do you go for crits as well, nabbing the IE very late game?

All about tradeoffs. At what points is it more effective, and at what points is it less effective? Someone would have to make a graph of some sort to show average DPS of the same carry at different points of different builds, all with the same gold values. I would bet that BotRK does give earlier advantages, but the plateau of the traditional build is still quite a bit higher, and still very much worth investing in.
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#5centurion911Posted 3/1/2013 3:47:58 PM
The good thing about BoRK is that it has a large amount of stats that all do very good things with each other. The AD goes well with AS, the % current HP shred goes well with AS, and the % max HP shred goes well with the % current HP shred.

It gives lane sustain and damage that WILL scale into lategame (this is the health stack meta) especially for bruisers.
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#6lightdragoon88Posted 3/1/2013 3:51:43 PM
EDumey posted...
The real question is when you're crossing your first real power threshold.

Sure it's a great item for mid-game now, but it certainly isn't the same killing force as IE/PD/LW, which is the major high damage DPS. Do you get BotRK/Shiv/LW instead? It's cheaper, meaning you get to that three item threshold earlier than your opponents, but is that worth it? Do you sacrifice crits entirely at this point and finish your damage with a BT so you actually have some base AD to write home about, or do you go for crits as well, nabbing the IE very late game?

All about tradeoffs. At what points is it more effective, and at what points is it less effective? Someone would have to make a graph of some sort to show average DPS of the same carry at different points of different builds, all with the same gold values. I would bet that BotRK does give earlier advantages, but the plateau of the traditional build is still quite a bit higher, and still very much worth investing in.





http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/vvinrar/23162-damage-analysis-blade-of-the-ruined-king
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#7EDumeyPosted 3/1/2013 3:55:06 PM
I believe that was the patch BEFORE this major buff. But maybe I read that wrong.

Though that is the exact type of DPS calculations that I was talking about.
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#8lightdragoon88Posted 3/1/2013 3:59:48 PM
EDumey posted...
I believe that was the patch BEFORE this major buff. But maybe I read that wrong.

Though that is the exact type of DPS calculations that I was talking about.


This was with the 45AD no attack speed one.


I expect this person to make a new one soon as he does this a lot. Keep a eye on him or send him a message.
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#9megadude1Posted 3/1/2013 4:01:17 PM
irelia benefits quite well from this.
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#10TriikzPosted 3/1/2013 4:08:08 PM
I just used this on MF for the first time last game and all I can say is.... WOW, just Wow. I melted through Jax, Darius, and Fiora so fast it was unreal. I just dont see how this item could possibly go unnerfed. I am going to enjoy it while it lasts though haha.
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