I honestly think they need to change Skarner's E to something else.

#31omega bahumat(Topic Creator)Posted 3/4/2013 12:35:40 PM
Metleon posted...
negative4 posted...
The point is that Skarner is already strong enough as it is. Innate tankiness, permaslow, and a small shield. I swear, E is just a filler move to not make him ridiculously OP.


In that case, just make it completely passive and make it so he heals X damage every basic attack and use of Crystal Slash.


This too. This could work. Weaken the heal, but work it like Irelia's heal.

I am seriously open to discussion on this. But the posts that are being outrageous about the changes, his kit or himself are going to be met with cynicism and sarcasm every time. If only because they are non-sensical.
#32TAMIUS_REBORNPosted 3/4/2013 2:39:26 PM
Bump because why not.
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#33NinjaKangarooPosted 3/4/2013 3:13:05 PM
if it had a lower cast time, and either a faster projectile speed or a longer range, it would actually be usable (not good, but usable)
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#34VoidgolemPosted 3/4/2013 3:20:39 PM
thought experiment: What if they replaced Fracture with the evolved form of Leap?
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#35omega bahumat(Topic Creator)Posted 3/5/2013 7:12:36 AM
Voidgolem posted...
thought experiment: What if they replaced Fracture with the evolved form of Leap?


I don't think that would work. Scorpions don't really jump (Spiders do ->Elise)

They do dig underground, but I think giving a tank a stealthy gap closer is nonsensical so that's out.

Scorpions do poison though so what if it put a Dot on them that doubled his passive? (2 secs on champs and 1 sec on minions)

Probably OP considering that they changed his Ultimate's CD because of his passive though.
#36omega bahumat(Topic Creator)Posted 3/5/2013 7:13:21 AM
NinjaKangaroo posted...
if it had a lower cast time, and either a faster projectile speed or a longer range, it would actually be usable (not good, but usable)


This is true and is my main complaint with it.

I'm not looking for an OP skill. I'm looking for a usable skill.
#37DartDragoonPosted 3/5/2013 7:53:54 AM
It's kind of a tool for lane Skarner, but yeah, not many people actually play lane with him.

Also, I still always take it at lv4 in the jungle, if you can hit all creeps with it and crystal slash in the middle, it still heals for an okay amount early on
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#38lightdragoon88Posted 3/5/2013 8:04:42 AM
omega bahumat posted...
Voidgolem posted...
thought experiment: What if they replaced Fracture with the evolved form of Leap?


I don't think that would work. Scorpions don't really jump (Spiders do ->Elise)

They do dig underground, but I think giving a tank a stealthy gap closer is nonsensical so that's out.

Scorpions do poison though so what if it put a Dot on them that doubled his passive? (2 secs on champs and 1 sec on minions)

Probably OP considering that they changed his Ultimate's CD because of his passive though.


Why not have Fracture poison them?
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#39omega bahumat(Topic Creator)Posted 3/5/2013 8:06:13 AM
lightdragoon88 posted...
omega bahumat posted...
Voidgolem posted...
thought experiment: What if they replaced Fracture with the evolved form of Leap?


I don't think that would work. Scorpions don't really jump (Spiders do ->Elise)

They do dig underground, but I think giving a tank a stealthy gap closer is nonsensical so that's out.

Scorpions do poison though so what if it put a Dot on them that doubled his passive? (2 secs on champs and 1 sec on minions)

Probably OP considering that they changed his Ultimate's CD because of his passive though.


Why not have Fracture poison them?


That's what I was thinking. However it adds nothing to his kit and doesn't really make sense with him. He's not really a character that would take advantage of the poison (unless said poison revealed the person even under stealth because of some kind of biology).
#40BlocktopusPosted 3/5/2013 8:07:25 AM
So basically peoples reasoning is that Skarner is already strong enough so he doesn't actually need a full kit like every other champion in the game right? Right, so tell me why he isn't being used nearly as much anymore?

That's really the worst argument I've ever heard
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