Full flat ap vs full magic pen

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User Info: Unit1027

Unit1027
3 years ago#1
Which is better? My friend told me magic pen are so i kinda wanna ask riot for refund on my runes.

User Info: DeleveleD

DeleveleD
3 years ago#2
AP for early game, which can be devastating if you manage to pull a lead and acquire/quickly stack more AP from items.

MPen in the long run.
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User Info: Black_Assassin

Black_Assassin
3 years ago#3
DeleveleD posted...
MPen in the long run.

Flat mpen is most effective at low amounts of mres though, because of diminishing returns with stacking resistances.

User Info: Biglabron

Biglabron
3 years ago#4
champ dependant.

If you are someone like gragas/sion AP all the way. These 2 champs specifically are still recommended to rush 2 dorans rings.

Look up the champs you play the most and see what their ratios are. If 2 or more spells of their kit is .8 or higher ap might be better.
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User Info: ssj4supervegeta

ssj4supervegeta
3 years ago#5
Black_Assassin posted...
DeleveleD posted...
MPen in the long run.

Flat mpen is most effective at low amounts of mres though, because of diminishing returns with stacking resistances.


stacking resistances has become extremely uncommon tho. and with the change to pen it makes sense.
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kourkour
3 years ago#6
From: Biglabron | #004
champ dependant.

If you are someone like gragas/sion AP all the way. These 2 champs specifically are still recommended to rush 2 dorans rings.

Look up the champs you play the most and see what their ratios are. If 2 or more spells of their kit is .8 or higher ap might be better.


Pretty much, the higher your AP ratios, the more you should prefer AP over Mpen.
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User Info: Slayn

Slayn
3 years ago#7
Magic pen reds
AP quints

I like mpen because of how good an early guise is. No one really takes MR any more, so easy to get true damage.
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User Info: Unit1027

Unit1027
3 years ago#8
Biglabron posted...
champ dependant.

If you are someone like gragas/sion AP all the way. These 2 champs specifically are still recommended to rush 2 dorans rings.

Look up the champs you play the most and see what their ratios are. If 2 or more spells of their kit is .8 or higher ap might be better.


Hows full magic pen on fizz?

User Info: Price_Of_Fame

Price_Of_Fame
3 years ago#9
Ap ratios

high flat ap. low mpen
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User Info: kaysa13

kaysa13
3 years ago#10
Slayn posted...
Magic pen reds
AP quints

I like mpen because of how good an early guise is. No one really takes MR any more, so easy to get true damage.
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