why does riven counter vi?

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User Info: ffxblak12

ffxblak12
4 years ago#1
according to all the counter websites?

User Info: FlameLord23

FlameLord23
4 years ago#2
the counter websites don't know s*** they're made by players who got stomped on in their last game. If you want to know who actually counters someone watch pro streams or play against them.
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User Info: Arken101

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4 years ago#3
I would guess it's due to them both being close range melee fighters that require constant hits to do extra damage, but in Vi's sense she has a single gap closer so Riven would be able to win any trade by Valor'ing her punch, stunning and then Walking/q'ing away. Plus she's an awesome duelist so there's that.
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User Info: omega bahumat

omega bahumat
4 years ago#4
FlameLord23 posted...
the counter websites don't know s*** they're made by players who got stomped on in their last game. If you want to know who actually counters someone watch pro streams or play against them.


Lol counter isn't bad tbh.

User Info: omega bahumat

omega bahumat
4 years ago#5
I haven't played or watch the match up

but

I'd imagine it goes like:

Riven uses Q to trade, Quinn either uses Q to back up or fights with E, Riven uses W/E and walks away with more damage traded.

Riven has a better dueling kit overall in this match up.

Quinn has to land Q - and Riven can dodge that with 1Q and E NP. Then riven can reQQ onto her Auto Stun auto walk back and be up in the trade without taking damage from E.

But I'm just theory crafting.

User Info: deadlyaces777

deadlyaces777
4 years ago#6
omega bahumat posted...
I haven't played or watch the match up

but

I'd imagine it goes like:

Riven uses Q to trade, Quinn either uses Q to back up or fights with E, Riven uses W/E and walks away with more damage traded.

Riven has a better dueling kit overall in this match up.

Quinn has to land Q - and Riven can dodge that with 1Q and E NP. Then riven can reQQ onto her Auto Stun auto walk back and be up in the trade without taking damage from E.

But I'm just theory crafting.


awkward moment when topic is about riven vs vi, not valor/quinn

User Info: omega bahumat

omega bahumat
4 years ago#7
deadlyaces777 posted...
omega bahumat posted...
I haven't played or watch the match up

but

I'd imagine it goes like:

Riven uses Q to trade, Quinn either uses Q to back up or fights with E, Riven uses W/E and walks away with more damage traded.

Riven has a better dueling kit overall in this match up.

Quinn has to land Q - and Riven can dodge that with 1Q and E NP. Then riven can reQQ onto her Auto Stun auto walk back and be up in the trade without taking damage from E.

But I'm just theory crafting.


awkward moment when topic is about riven vs vi, not valor/quinn



That is kinda what I was talking about... Since Quinn's E gapcloses and doesn't leap and has nothing to do with Q at all..

Riven would win versus a Quinn that used E anyway.

User Info: Masemune_100

Masemune_100
4 years ago#8
omega bahumat posted...
That is kinda what I was talking about... Since Quinn's E gapcloses and doesn't leap and has nothing to do with Q at all..

Riven would win versus a Quinn that used E anyway.


Read the topic title again.
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User Info: omega bahumat

omega bahumat
4 years ago#9
Masemune_100 posted...
omega bahumat posted...
That is kinda what I was talking about... Since Quinn's E gapcloses and doesn't leap and has nothing to do with Q at all..

Riven would win versus a Quinn that used E anyway.


Read the topic title again.


Did you read my original post at all?

Or are you just jumping into a conversation with zero context?
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