Oh crap, if gamefaqs users saying Zac UP, he's going to dominate.

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2 years ago#11
Yeah, people said Vi was a bad top lane.

There was dissension on whether to play her Mid or Jungle. Now everyone takes her Jungle almost exclusively, and people are comfortable with her in that niche.

Elise and Hecarim had monumental shifts with S3. In S2, they were kind of under the par.

Also when Elise was in S2, people were again confused on where to play her. Most thought she was mid or jungle. Now she's almost exclusively top, with some jungle play here and there.
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2 years ago#12
From: shadyelf | #009
I mean he has 4 min+ clear and does absolutely no damage (i feel like W does more damage to himself)

W will never do more damage to yourself if you pick up the blob.

At anything less then full health using W and picking the blob up gives you more health then you spent casting W.
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2 years ago#13
I'm pretty sure I remember people saying Vi jungle sucked and she was best top for a time.
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2 years ago#14
LaqOfInterest posted...
GameFAQs never said Vi, Hec or Elise were UP. They said Rengar, Kha'Zix, Nami and Quinn were. Because they were(/are).


You best be joking.
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2 years ago#15
From: LaqOfInterest | #006
GameFAQs never said Vi, Hec or Elise were UP. They said Rengar, Kha'Zix, Nami and Quinn were. Because they were(/are).


lol

they said vi was completely useless

and said Hec's trash early game ruins his jungle

lol
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2 years ago#16
My only concern is how the **** do you keep alive in teamfights with all that recoil damage

Certainly has some heinous output for a tank type.
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2 years ago#17
Voidgolem posted...
My only concern is how the **** do you keep alive in teamfights with all that recoil damage

Certainly has some heinous output for a tank type.


Spells cost a bunch of HP, he has no tank stas whatsoever OR good base stats. His E is clunky as hell. His Q is like Trundle's Q. Meant to close a gap/do damage, instead creates one.


Fix his E bugs/clunkiness, make his Q have lower cast time and maybe lower some health costs (not 100% needed) and he'll be a good pick, maybe even OP. But if he is released in the exact state he's in on the PBE, he won't be OP.
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