Discussion: do you think winrate is a good metric of how good a champion is?

#1ComputerLegacyPosted 3/27/2013 12:23:01 PM
Why or why not? I'm talking about solo queue mostly.
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#2angermngment101Posted 3/27/2013 12:25:15 PM(edited)
Yes. This is completely ignoring team comp + skill levels + ability to use the champion = irrelevant, because you simply cant account for everything.

The best metric would have to be win rate.
#3kimimaru5Posted 3/27/2013 12:25:25 PM
No. It's a measure of how many people don't know how to stop said champion.
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#4angermngment101Posted 3/27/2013 12:26:29 PM
From: kimimaru5 | #003
No. It's a measure of how many people don't know how to stop said champion.

Wouldnt that equate to how good a champion is in solo queue?
#5Dota2Posted 3/27/2013 12:29:44 PM
theres SOMETHING there

its just not equivalent
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#6shrimp1992Posted 3/27/2013 12:31:46 PM
its the best we have yes.
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#7Kenji MurasamePosted 3/27/2013 12:31:47 PM
It's complicated, but you should probably concern yourself with YOUR winrates with champions if you can keep track.
#8EDumeyPosted 3/27/2013 12:33:32 PM
In some cases.

For example Rumble and Taric are really strong and it shows in their win rates.

However it wasn't too long ago that Syndra was basically the worst, and now a lot of people are realizing her power. Same with Elise and Vi before they found their niches.

Shen and Olaf were often kings of tourneys, but their win rates plummeted with people trying to play them in ranked without actually knowing how to play them. Similar story with Rengar at some points of his buffs/nerfs.

So generally yes, high win rates are signs of a good/easy champ. But it's important to recognize that a low win rate does not necessarily equate to a bad champ.
#9ssj4supervegetaPosted 3/27/2013 1:23:09 PM
its a small boost to "this champ is under/overpowered! look at its winrate!" but should never be the core argument.
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#10AmarajahPosted 3/27/2013 1:34:04 PM
Other than that, all we have is design opinion or results from competitive play of said champion.