new karma is still terrible

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3 years ago#1
at max level her total spell dmg is

base - 260 + 260 + 300 = 820
ratios? 1.8
- slow, root and shield
- Definitely a support, NOT an AP carry (but there are better supports)
- long cds, wont be able to spam any spells
to put it in perspective lets check other AP mids

Annie
base - 245 + 280 + 450 = 975
ratios? 2.15
-AOE stun, shorter cds

Ahri
base - 280+280+180+495 = 1235
ratios? 2.86
-charm, shorter cds

Lux
base - 1000
ratio? 2.05
-snare, super long range

Orianna
base - 910
ratios - 2.2
-displacement, slow, shorter cds

Now let's look at the SUPER DAMAGE APs

Leblanc
base - 1317
ratio? 3.8 approx.
-root, slow, silence

Karthus
base - 900
ratio? 1.45
-slow
looks weak? his E does repeated dmg PER SECOND, his Q can be spammed each second. He doesn't have to wait 5-10 seconds to cast the spell again. So multiply his damage by a factor of 5.

Cassiopeia
base - 1240
ratio? 2.25
-slow, stun
looks weak? Her E can be cast every half a second if the target is poisoned.... which makes her single target burst the highest out of any AP. It hurts like a full build ADC.

There you have it. Karma is terrible at doing magic damage compared to a sample of APs.
3 years ago#2
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at max level her total spell dmg is

base - 260 + 260 + 300 = 820
ratios? 1.8
- slow, root and shield
- Definitely a support, NOT an AP carry (but there are better supports)
- long cds, wont be able to spam any spells
to put it in perspective lets check other AP mids

Annie
base - 245 + 280 + 450 = 975
ratios? 2.15
-AOE stun, shorter cds

Ahri
base - 280+280+180+495 = 1235
ratios? 2.86
-charm, shorter cds

Lux
base - 1000
ratio? 2.05
-snare, super long range

Orianna
base - 910
ratios - 2.2
-displacement, slow, shorter cds

Now let's look at the SUPER DAMAGE APs

Leblanc
base - 1317
ratio? 3.8 approx.
-root, slow, silence

Karthus
base - 900
ratio? 1.45
-slow
looks weak? his E does repeated dmg PER SECOND, his Q can be spammed each second. He doesn't have to wait 5-10 seconds to cast the spell again. So multiply his damage by a factor of 5.

Cassiopeia
base - 1240
ratio? 2.25
-slow, stun
looks weak? Her E can be cast every half a second if the target is poisoned.... which makes her single target burst the highest out of any AP. It hurts like a full build ADC.

There you have it. Karma is terrible at doing magic damage compared to a sample of APs.


u dint include a mantra q, and q has a low cooldown. i think ap karma is pretty good, only played one game but it seems strong as hell to me.
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3 years ago#3
I haven't played her, but maybe she'll be like elise and just build tanky and be a utility bot.
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3 years ago#4
Original Karma was more fun as well, idk..I'm not ready to make a judgement on if she is bad or not yet but after a few games she is very meh
3 years ago#5
Well she's definitely not going to dish out as much damage as AP carries.
She does have good CC so she should really be a support IMO
3 years ago#6
Better as a support for sure.
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3 years ago#7
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3 years ago#8
Lategame Mantra Charged Q deals anywhere between 1500-1900 damage, her damage is more than good.
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3 years ago#9
Better as an ap carry and one of the best, and I'll stand by my opinion
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3 years ago#10
She deals plenty of damage, she's just not a burst machine.
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