what is teamfight presence to you?

#1thedarklordx3Posted 3/30/2013 9:25:57 PM(edited)
I've always thought of teamfights like parties

sometimes you're the one holding the whole thing together

and sometimes you're just there, but nobody really wants or needs you and yet no one can kick you out

and thus, teamfight presence would be how close to either of those you are(closer to the first is more)

or, you could just ask yourself "how different would things be if I wasn't here?"

although by that definition there can be negative teamfight presence, as it's entirely possible(but hard) to be stupid enough that a 4v5 would go BETTER

examples:

1. jarvan boxing in his team with his ult, preventing their escape and giftwrapping the pentakill to the enemy ADC, or if he's not trolling(or braindead) he could also trap some enemies in there, thinking that the enemies would be smashed only to realize he trapped the AP mid and the adc and the support with 2 enemy bruisers and their tank

2. anivia walling in her team, or walling in the enemy team thinking that it would allow THEM to be slaughtered

3. alistar headbutting the enemy who's low health past THEIR team, causing them to get away unless you want to dive the other 4 members of the team for the kill

4. in the same vein as the above, blitzcrank grabbing someone who's about to die, from death(away from a tower, away from a gank, away from someone they can't beat, out of a teamfight when they're being focused, etc.) bonus fail if blitz dies

5. xin zhao ulting either behind or in front of the enemy team depending on the situation(the former could push the stronger team into the weaker, the latter could push the weaker further away from the stronger)

those are examples of how a 4v5 could be more favorable than a 5v5... that 5th guy would need to have the downs(or be trolling) though

but what do YOU guys think it is?
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#2DeeJayTechnikaPosted 3/30/2013 9:22:46 PM
Lux, AoE slow, multi snare, aoe ult, and massive shield.

Orianna.
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#3random_blahPosted 3/30/2013 9:32:20 PM
Teamfight presence is your rating on the scale of 1 to Nautilus.
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#4Small_appliancePosted 3/30/2013 9:36:31 PM
random_blah posted...
Teamfight presence is your rating on the scale of Shaco to Nautilus.


ftfy
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#5thedarklordx3(Topic Creator)Posted 3/30/2013 9:45:09 PM
random_blah posted...
Teamfight presence is your rating on the scale of 1 to Nautilus.


Small_appliance posted...
random_blah posted...
Teamfight presence is your rating on the scale of Shaco to Nautilus.


ftfy


well it is hard to beat nautilius, but I'm sure there exists people who are worse than shaco in teamfights

other than the horrible horrible theoretical scenarios in the OP
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#6DiplomacySCPosted 3/30/2013 10:01:33 PM
Small_appliance posted...
random_blah posted...
Teamfight presence is your rating on the scale of Heimerdinger to Nautilus.


ftfy
#7thedarklordx3(Topic Creator)Posted 3/30/2013 10:13:23 PM
DiplomacySC posted...
Small_appliance posted...
random_blah posted...
Teamfight presence is your rating on the scale of Heimerdinger to Nautilus.


ftfy


that's what I was thinking actually lol


DiplomacySC posted...
Teamfight presence is your rating on the scale of Heimerdinger/Fiora to Nautilus/Blitzcrank/Alistar.


fixed that for YOU
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#8FlameLord23Posted 3/30/2013 10:15:06 PM
thedarklordx3 posted...
DiplomacySC posted...
Small_appliance posted...
random_blah posted...
Teamfight presence is your rating on the scale of Heimerdinger to Nautilus.


ftfy


that's what I was thinking actually lol


DiplomacySC posted...
Teamfight presence is your rating on the scale of Heimerdinger/Fiora to Nautilus/Blitzcrank/Alistar.


fixed that for YOU


Blitz and Ali are below naut. They have a combo. Once they throw that they're done. Naut has snares on his autos that he can use and an AOE DOT.
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#9thedarklordx3(Topic Creator)Posted 3/30/2013 11:22:34 PM
FlameLord23 posted...


Blitz and Ali are below naut. They have a combo. Once they throw that they're done. Naut has snares on his autos that he can use and an AOE DOT.


wow? really? I didn't know the former(snare on auto) he's better than I thought
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#10kirbymuncherPosted 3/31/2013 4:40:15 AM
Also fiora's teamfight presence is better than you're giving her credit for :\

she's very similar to other assassins in the whole "jump on squishy and kill them fast" kind of thing
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