Darius beats Teemo top, why do people argue the opposite?

#1Sin___Posted 4/7/2013 11:33:46 AM(edited)
Normally Teemo takes a big dump on melee but not many people can straight up fight Darius, especially Teemo, and Darius can PULL Teemo towards him if he auto attacks him, or even tries to farm caster minions.


Teemo's attack range: 500
Darius' pull range: 550

Sure, if Teemo can annihilate Darius at level 1 then I can see him winning, but that barely ever happens.

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#2The Last CetraPosted 4/7/2013 11:39:03 AM
You've got it kind of backwards. Every time Darius comes in to last hit, he should be eating a Q in the face. Post-6 a smart Teemo will bait Darius into chasing him through mushrooms.

Yes, if Darius can get his hands on Teemo, Teemo is a stain on the grass. But a good Teemo should never let Darius that close.
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#3gvandalePosted 4/7/2013 11:44:05 AM
Cetra's got it right. As a Teemo I'm always prepared to AA-Q-AA a champ, but will straight Q anyone who can grab me in.

Also, many I've played against take a Q to the face as a reason to rush me, and post-6 that just has them tripping on shrooms.
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#4AllGodsDiePosted 4/7/2013 11:47:15 AM
I'd say its more of a skill match up early on. However, there is no denying once Darius hits 6 teemo is pretty much instant combo'd.
#5NicoGrimmPosted 4/7/2013 11:50:06 AM(edited)
Darius Pull CD: 12 Seconds at rank 5 with no CDR
Teemo's AA CD: like..1 second?
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#6SoulknightX0Posted 4/7/2013 11:50:50 AM
Who cares both champions suck for teamfights
#7angelwkw3Posted 4/7/2013 11:52:38 AM
NicoGrimm posted...
Darius Pull CD: 12 Seconds at rank 5 with no CDR
Teemo's AA CD: like..1 second?

The cooldown could be 60 seconds, you only need 1 grab to kill him.
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#8RyokoWinsPosted 4/7/2013 11:52:44 AM
I have never actually seen a Teemo beat any of the champs he supposedly counters.
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#9angelwkw3Posted 4/7/2013 11:53:33 AM
SoulknightX0 posted...
Who cares both champions suck for teamfights

lol? AP teemo is fine for team fighting and so is Darius with his ult resets.
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#10EDumeyPosted 4/7/2013 11:55:09 AM
Darius pull is not that hard to bait out.

And due to the mechanics of range, I believe the range of the auto and pull is actually the exact same. I don't really remember the exact reason for this, but I think its something to do with where the range begins. Like at the center of a charactermodel or at the edge of them.

If Teemo has any knowledge of how to use his shrooms, Darius will be eating them and losing out. Teemo can kite him even if hit by a pull.