New Udyr: Phoenix or Tiger in da jungle?

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User Info: Dark_Dc

Dark_Dc
3 years ago#1
What do you guys think? I at first didn't see the need for Phoenix since the new jungle is pretty good to single target DPS but Phoenix is definitely better for a disrupting tank build.

Going Tiger I get fed early and snowball lanes, as Phoenix I get the lane fed and peel like a boss. Thoughts?

Also are you maxing W or E second? I see merits to both but seems a tough choice
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Alastreon
3 years ago#2
Tiger's fo life.
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User Info: SeanMx33

SeanMx33
3 years ago#3
I usually play tiger but haven't played phoenix enough to really make a strong argument for it.
Also, I usually max e first or max e and w evenly
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EcchiBaka
3 years ago#4
I go Phoenix first but after putting 3 points in it I level Tiger and whatever hell else I think I need.
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User Info: mutation10101

mutation10101
3 years ago#5
Phoenix for insane clear speed and great burst.
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User Info: Iraumas220

Iraumas220
3 years ago#6
I've been going phoenix and building mostly tanky. and leveling W second. Peel enemies off carry and phoenix burst them, then go turtle to tank shots.

This is just bronze tho, so I'm forced to go full tank because no one knows how to initiate in bronze. I love me some tiger tho
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NicoGrimm
3 years ago#7
1 point in tiger at level 1, then phoenix.
The DoT and AS Steroid from Tiger synergyzes amazingly well with Phoenix.
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User Info: Dark_Dc

Dark_Dc
3 years ago#8
SeanMx33 posted...
I usually play tiger but haven't played phoenix enough to really make a strong argument for it.
Also, I usually max e first or max e and w evenly


Hm. I like the damage I get maxing Q or R first.

I have also heard of 3 points in R then going tiger after but I feel like this spreads you too thin for the early/mid game. Maxed phoenix with some tank and AS is pretty beastly now that I have played it. But yeah Tiger is like

YO IM IN YOUR LANE AND IF YOU DON'T FLASH YOU'RE DEAD BRO

Guess it'll depend on the comp. Might try the Bear first soon
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User Info: EDumey

EDumey
3 years ago#9
I've been going phoenix. Though I've played Udyr jungle since mid-S2, so I'm a little stuck in my ways. The change of proccing Phoenix on first hit was a great change for getting that burst out there in a fight though.

As far as maxing turtle versus bear, it depends on the game. Are you ahead and jusy need more mobility to stay ahead? Bear all the way. Do you need to soak up a lot of damage and be a super slippery jungle? Turtle stance wins you games. Not sure? Level them evenly. Most games I play, I opt for maxing turtle first, simply because it can get you in and out of a lot more sticky situations than bear can. But bear stance first can work out.
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