udyr seems like he should be reworked to a manaless champ

#1ffxblak12Posted 4/10/2013 4:38:51 PM
mana just doesn't seem to fit the idea of constant stance change spamming champ.
cooldowns are enough
#2awwwSNAPPosted 4/10/2013 4:41:34 PM
ffxblak12 posted...
mana just doesn't seem to fit the idea of constant stance change spamming champ.
cooldowns are enough


He would be beyond op early. Tiger Udyr, red start, 100% level 2 gank success rate
#3ffxblak12(Topic Creator)Posted 4/10/2013 4:45:12 PM
awwwSNAP posted...
ffxblak12 posted...
mana just doesn't seem to fit the idea of constant stance change spamming champ.
cooldowns are enough


He would be beyond op early. Tiger Udyr, red start, 100% level 2 gank success rate


you can do that anyway if you start flask
#4Savra104Posted 4/10/2013 4:46:08 PM
I kinda agree with this.

But at the same time, the Mana is a noticeable attempt to further limit his power. Udyr with CDR can literally walk into the Jungle with <100 HP and come out with 400+ at level 1 Turtle Stance. Imagine a non-Mana Udyr spamming Turtle Stance... Not to mention, once you get the hang of stance changing on those really low CDs, you can combo people down pretty easily. Of course, you DID say rework...

It would be interesting to see an Energy-use Udyr, though. Fits him in with the other Martial Arts champs.
#5NicoGrimmPosted 4/10/2013 4:59:59 PM
As much as I love Udyr, I can't agree with this. At least not without lowering his numbers, which I'ma against.
Udyr has possibly THE highest early game burst. Mana issues is practically the only thing holding him back.
Taking mana away from him would make him OP, imo.
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#6CovenantPosted 4/10/2013 5:16:07 PM
If he were manaless, he could farm the entire map all game long.

That would be bad.
#7awwwSNAPPosted 4/10/2013 5:41:56 PM
ffxblak12 posted...
awwwSNAP posted...
ffxblak12 posted...
mana just doesn't seem to fit the idea of constant stance change spamming champ.
cooldowns are enough


He would be beyond op early. Tiger Udyr, red start, 100% level 2 gank success rate


you can do that anyway if you start flask


See this seemed like a genuine question at first but now I suspect you're trolling
#8joonyoungiePosted 4/10/2013 5:43:34 PM
lol might as well just change his passive to permanent instead of per stance change if you're going to give him no mana cost.

you could just spam stances the entire time and have his passive on forever. actually no, just make his passive his stance description and add 10%attack speed and 5 move speed permanently to his stats.
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#9ffxblak12(Topic Creator)Posted 4/10/2013 7:00:33 PM
awwwSNAP posted...
ffxblak12 posted...
awwwSNAP posted...
ffxblak12 posted...
mana just doesn't seem to fit the idea of constant stance change spamming champ.
cooldowns are enough


He would be beyond op early. Tiger Udyr, red start, 100% level 2 gank success rate


you can do that anyway if you start flask


See this seemed like a genuine question at first but now I suspect you're trolling


why not start flask?
#10lightdragoon88Posted 4/10/2013 7:04:17 PM
I agree with Energy.
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