Upcoming PBE Zed tweak

#1GreatKiraLordPosted 4/17/2013 1:07:12 AM
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3345164&page=15

Note: These current notes are tenative and may be changed or removed from the next patch.

Zed

Living Shadow
- Cooldown reduced to 18/17/16/15/14 seconds from 22/20.5/19/17.5/16

Shadow Slash
- Hitting enemy minions and monsters no longer reduce Living Shadow's cooldown
- Hitting enemy champions now reduces Living Shadow's cooldown by 2 seconds, up from 1 second

These Zed changes are aimed towards 2 goals:

1) Reducing his lane safety

Currently, Zed has little need to actually manage Living Shadow's cooldown due to the interactions with lane minions. Zed's that get ahead are able to push and harass with impunity since in these situations Zed's Living Shadow has a fairly negligible cooldown.

This is not intended as Zed is by design a high risk, high skill cap, high reward type of champion.

Zed's Living Shadow, especially early on in the game, should be something both him and his lane opponent need to keep track of. When Living Shadow is down, Zed's lane opponent should be able to take advantage of this window of vulnerability to punish him and Zed should have to play defensively until it comes back up.

2) Allowing Zed to actually achieve Living Shadow resets in team fights

With Shadow Slash's increase to cooldown reduction upon hitting champions and the base cooldown of Living Shadow being reduced, Zed actually has a legitimate shot at very quickly resetting his Living Shadow cooldown in actual team fights depending on the situation and his execution. Zed can now potentially open up fights with Living Shadow, land 2-3 solid Shadow Slashes, and have Living Shadow back up in order to exit the fray or continue chasing down his targets.

Like stated above, all of the changes are tenative as of now, but I just wanted to give you guys some insight into the thought process here.
#2wehomiesPosted 4/17/2013 1:10:29 AM
im not sure if this is going ot be enough for zed to not suck
#3LimeInCoconutPosted 4/17/2013 1:11:19 AM
Oh cool, in the other topic I said something along the lines of "It would make sense to reduce his base cooldowns as well to balance his jungle a bit" and it looks like they're taking that stance into consideration.
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#4LimeInCoconutPosted 4/17/2013 1:12:38 AM
From: wehomies | #002
im not sure if this is going ot be enough for zed to not suck



It's certainly still a nerf, but at least it's not as bad as everyone was expecting.
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#5ManTigerPosted 4/17/2013 1:22:58 AM
that's better
but is it really enough for zed to be used over the likes of kha'zix?
iono meng still looks bad
#6princemarth23Posted 4/17/2013 1:30:19 AM
Makes sense to me. Zed's laning is just ridiculous atm, and this actually helps him in teamfights where he seems to have problems a lot of the time.
#7natchu96Posted 4/17/2013 2:47:56 AM
princemarth23 posted...
Makes sense to me. Zed's laning is just ridiculous atm, and this actually helps him in teamfights where he seems to have problems a lot of the time.


He's still a single target nuke, but at least he can stick around a bit longer and be slightly useful.
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#8g-cube_mastaPosted 4/17/2013 4:17:18 AM
They took a lot off the base CD. I think this might actually math out to a buff. E benefitting from creeps to bring W's CD down helped but it really didn't make a difference if you were ganked. I'll take the lower base CD. Especially because now it is 14sec at rank 5.
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#9natchu96Posted 4/17/2013 4:30:01 AM(edited)
g-cube_masta posted...
They took a lot off the base CD. I think this might actually math out to a buff. E benefitting from creeps to bring W's CD down helped but it really didn't make a difference if you were ganked. I'll take the lower base CD. Especially because now it is 14sec at rank 5.


Yeah, just saw the OP. Kind of balances out in lane, and in a fight it cools down way faster now.
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#10NoodleStudPosted 4/17/2013 8:08:18 AM
nef laning
buff teamfighting

ill take the teamfighting since zed's is almost nonexistent as of now
this will make zed's teamfighting be much like kha'zix's while being a better assassin
however his laning isn't as good as khazix's now