Double Doran's vs Fiendish Codex

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2 years ago#1
Why do people go double Doran's over a Fiendish Codex? I mean, lets look at it for a sec

2x Dorans
- Cost 950 Gold
- 30 AP
- 160 Health
- +6 Mana/5
- Restores 10 mana when you kill an enemy unit

Fiendish Codex
- 820 Gold
- 10% CDR
- Builds into DFG, Athene's Unholy Grail, and Morellonomicon (most AP casters will get at least one of these)

So, how come most people (I especially see a lot of pros do this) go for double Doran's of a Fiendish Codex? is the extra health, mana regen, and passive really worth it?
2 years ago#2
Yes?
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2 years ago#3
Dorans gives you so much in lane still. It's the fastest way to a lane item advantage.
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2 years ago#4
That mana sustain is so much more important...

Cooldown reduction will remove your mana more than save it...
2 years ago#5
From: CoCaYnEcOwBoY | #001
- Restores 10 mana when you kill an enemy unit

Wow, that's really its passive? I've never heard of this up until now.

Makes me feel bad for Swain.
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2 years ago#6
Good Guy Gujin

Corrects improper apostrophe in an edit
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2 years ago#7
The health is kind of a big deal early game.

My typical mana user build is early game sustain/ward, into double dorans, into sorc shoes, then selling my doran's when needed to upgrade to 'real' items.

would never not build dorans on casters. especially people like tf and lux who need the health early.
2 years ago#8
GujinKami posted...
From: CoCaYnEcOwBoY | #001
- Restores 10 mana when you kill an enemy unit

Wow, that's really its passive? I've never heard of this up until now.

Makes me feel bad for Swain.


yeah, one dorans give 5 mana, but since it's passive isn't unique you can stack it.
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2 years ago#9
I pretty much never buy Doran's Rings but I still acknowledge that they are, in fact, the strongest buy for earlygame dominance as a caster. Chalice might give better mana regen and comparable defense (against magic damage) but you don't get 30 AP to go with it. Similarly as in the OP's comparison, Codex doesn't give you any defense.

The difference between Doran's Ring and Doran's Blade is that the lifesteal-like passive on the latter is significantly stronger than the mana regen-like passive on the former. Casters also tend to get defense innately from their normal itemization, whether it's the MR from Grail or health on Liandry's / RoA / Rylai's or the Armor on Zhonya's (not to mention the active). AD carry itemization is purely offensive.
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2 years ago#10
Don't forget about the hp
+160 Health means you survive an extra spell, that is a lot.
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