I STILL have faith in AD Bruiser Elise

#11Tali_ZorahPosted 5/7/2013 1:39:08 AM(edited)
There's the fact that while spiderlings will scale with armor penetration, they won't scale with AD. Rather, they get a 0.1 AP ratio each. So if anything you should be getting some hybrid pen runes, then building tanky AP, since that maximises both Elise damage and Spiderling damage.

Oh, and Banner of Command. Excellent item for Elise, boosting her damage, her CDR, her armor, and her spiderling's damage.
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#12g-cube_mastaPosted 5/7/2013 1:34:29 AM
ap is better but ad isn't awful. Worse than AP but still a build where you do damage.

Problem is it scales worse because your mpen abilities aren't hitting hard at all so you're relying pretty much solely on autos.
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#13BurnumMasterPosted 5/7/2013 1:49:06 AM
Tali_Zorah posted...
There's the fact that while spiderlings will scale with armor penetration, they won't scale with AD. Rather, they get a 0.1 AP ratio each. So if anything you should be getting some hybrid pen runes, then building tanky AP, since that maximises both Elise damage and Spiderling damage.

Oh, and Banner of Command. Excellent item for Elise, boosting her damage, her CDR, her armor, and her spiderling's damage.


Does that item really work with them? It says minion damage on the description.
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#14Tali_ZorahPosted 5/7/2013 2:05:43 AM
BurnumMaster posted...
Tali_Zorah posted...
There's the fact that while spiderlings will scale with armor penetration, they won't scale with AD. Rather, they get a 0.1 AP ratio each. So if anything you should be getting some hybrid pen runes, then building tanky AP, since that maximises both Elise damage and Spiderling damage.

Oh, and Banner of Command. Excellent item for Elise, boosting her damage, her CDR, her armor, and her spiderling's damage.


Does that item really work with them? It says minion damage on the description.


http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Elise/Ability_Details

Spiderlings are affected by all the aura's that effect minions, this includes Banner of Command, Aegis of the Legion, Runic Bulwark and the Captain boots enchantment.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Banner_of_Command

Spiderlings deal damage based on their AD and deal physical damage.
Gain a bonus 1.5 / 3 / 4.5 / 6 (+1.5% AP) attack damage.
At rank 4 Spider Form with 400 ability power, Elise's spiderlings go from 80 to 92 AD. This is worth 120 AP / 2610 gold. Remember: Elise can have up to 5 spiderlings.



So yes, it works, and it's worth it. It's helped push the edge for me when having to fight champs with stuns or blinds or even exhaust. They might stun / blind / exhaust me, but my spiderlings are still working in overtime.
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#15BurnumMasterPosted 5/7/2013 2:08:31 AM
Thats cool. The more you know!
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#16Tali_ZorahPosted 5/7/2013 2:33:50 AM
Of course, it's still a situational item. It's a waste if you don't need the armour, since there are better ways of boosting your damage output, especially if you're against a team that has heavy aoes, might as well kiss your spiderlings goodbye then.

However, on the times when I feel like I only need a bit more armour, Banner works a real treat. Helps you split push lanes, too. Banner a minion near nexus going to one lane, join your team on another. Enemy team must send someone to stop that promoted minion or their towers will take some hefty damage. And you get gold for whatever it kills too, win win.
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#17_HeXPosted 5/7/2013 4:03:13 AM
AP Elise has no bad match-ups and you choose to gimp her by building AD? Good luck with that.
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