If you buy Lizard Elder on Ezreal (bl00 so c00l)

#1subZero1744Posted 6/18/2013 1:19:48 PM
I laugh at you.

Paying 2000 gold for 35 AD and 10% CDR is ridiculous.
#2Fenrir the WolfPosted 6/18/2013 1:20:20 PM
you get regens too
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#3zeppelin312Posted 6/18/2013 1:21:38 PM
it is still really efficient without considering it's passives
#4BhelliumPosted 6/18/2013 1:21:55 PM
bt is betterer now though
it used to be debatable
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#5ShadowD00mPosted 6/18/2013 1:22:13 PM
It also allows you to clear dragon/baron faster.
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#6another guyPosted 6/18/2013 1:26:18 PM(edited)
Long Sword and BF Sword for 1950g
55 AD

Spirit of the Elder Lizard for 2000g

35 AD
10% CDR
On Hit true damage for 6-40 over 3 seconds
14 Health regen
7 Mana regen
30% bonus damage to jungle creep(Including Baron and Dragon)

So, what's more beneficial?

20 AD

or

10% CDR
On Hit true damage for 6-40 over 3 seconds
14 Health regen
7 Mana regen
30% bonus damage to jungle creep(Including Baron and Dragon)


As much as you may hate it, The Stones are stupidly cost efficient.
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#7subZero1744(Topic Creator)Posted 6/18/2013 1:32:46 PM
another guy posted...
Long Sword and BF Sword for 1950g
55 AD

Spirit of the Elder Lizard for 2000g

35 AD
10% ADR
On Hit true damage for 6-40 over 3 seconds
14 Health regen
7 Mana regen
30% bonus damage to jungle creep(Including Baron and Dragon)

So, what's more beneficial?

20 AD

or

10% ADR
On Hit true damage for 6-40 over 3 seconds
14 Health regen
7 Mana regen
30% bonus damage to jungle creep(Including Baron and Dragon)


As much as you may hate it, The Stones are stupidly cost efficient.


20 AD is more beneficial. At a point where you already have lifesteal health regen becomes insignificant. Mana regen is a nice bonus but it's not a requirement for either laning or winning engages. Bonus damage to jungle creep is a complete luxury stat, I can't even come up with a valid situation where that stat would make a meaningful difference. The 20 AD is going to end up adding much, much more damage in any engagement and could easily be the difference between feeding a kill or getting one. It doesn't stop there though. Investing in BF and Longsword allows you to get that BT sooner, BT is insanely cost efficient (with stats you actually want as an ADC)
#8genericname1234Posted 6/18/2013 1:42:13 PM
subZero1744 posted...
another guy posted...
Long Sword and BF Sword for 1950g
55 AD

Spirit of the Elder Lizard for 2000g

35 AD
10% ADR
On Hit true damage for 6-40 over 3 seconds
14 Health regen
7 Mana regen
30% bonus damage to jungle creep(Including Baron and Dragon)

So, what's more beneficial?

20 AD

or

10% ADR
On Hit true damage for 6-40 over 3 seconds
14 Health regen
7 Mana regen
30% bonus damage to jungle creep(Including Baron and Dragon)


As much as you may hate it, The Stones are stupidly cost efficient.


20 AD is more beneficial. At a point where you already have lifesteal health regen becomes insignificant. Mana regen is a nice bonus but it's not a requirement for either laning or winning engages. Bonus damage to jungle creep is a complete luxury stat, I can't even come up with a valid situation where that stat would make a meaningful difference. The 20 AD is going to end up adding much, much more damage in any engagement and could easily be the difference between feeding a kill or getting one. It doesn't stop there though. Investing in BF and Longsword allows you to get that BT sooner, BT is insanely cost efficient (with stats you actually want as an ADC)


You can't think of a single scenario where doing bonus damage to jungle monsters would be useful? How about dragon control? 20 damage is nice, but you're ignoring the impact of the damage that you can apply on hit (which isn't mitigated by defense) as well as the fact that extra CDR will help you spam your skills a bit more.

It gives lane dominance and allows you to poke them down in lane. Blue ezreal is very effective if you have a poke comp and are a capable farmer.
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#9VoidgolemPosted 6/18/2013 1:50:49 PM
I wouldn't have an issue with ezes still building blue except they're getting **** on in lane when they do it.

that 35 AD is not helpful when the enemy already has a BT.
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#10subZero1744(Topic Creator)Posted 6/18/2013 4:53:00 PM
genericname1234 posted..

You can't think of a single scenario where doing bonus damage to jungle monsters would be useful? How about dragon control? 20 damage is nice, but you're ignoring the impact of the damage that you can apply on hit (which isn't mitigated by defense) as well as the fact that extra CDR will help you spam your skills a bit more.

It gives lane dominance and allows you to poke them down in lane. Blue ezreal is very effective if you have a poke comp and are a capable farmer.


30% Just isn't enough to make a big difference. If it ends up being that close you probably shouldn't have been doing dragon in the first place. Wriggles Lantern did over 3 times the damage on top of being even more gold efficient. Buff control is a nice statistic but it's not worth compromising your most efficient road to the stats you need to win trades/battles/engages in lane.