If you buy Lizard Elder on Ezreal (bl00 so c00l)

#11dennis941012Posted 6/18/2013 5:00:00 PM
From: subZero1744 | #010
genericname1234 posted..

You can't think of a single scenario where doing bonus damage to jungle monsters would be useful? How about dragon control? 20 damage is nice, but you're ignoring the impact of the damage that you can apply on hit (which isn't mitigated by defense) as well as the fact that extra CDR will help you spam your skills a bit more.

It gives lane dominance and allows you to poke them down in lane. Blue ezreal is very effective if you have a poke comp and are a capable farmer.


30% Just isn't enough to make a big difference. If it ends up being that close you probably shouldn't have been doing dragon in the first place. Wriggles Lantern did over 3 times the damage on top of being even more gold efficient. Buff control is a nice statistic but it's not worth compromising your most efficient road to the stats you need to win trades/battles/engages in lane.


6-40 true damage > 20 ad
even with bare miniumum armor at at around 50

20 x [100/150] = 14 damage per hit

by the time ezreal gets the item at around 6 ish
4 + 2 x lv
lizard will be dealing at least 18 true damage
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#12dennis941012Posted 6/18/2013 5:02:03 PM
also

35 attack damage = 1400g
14 health regeneration = 504g
7 mana regeneration = 420g
10% cooldown reduction = 322g
Total Gold Value = 2646g


vs

bt + sword
55 ad = 1897

you are paying 749 gold more for less damage and stat
gj
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#13darkwing1232Posted 6/18/2013 5:02:15 PM
Riot has stated that they don't want non-junglers to pick up jungling items. They nerfed Lizard into the ground because too many laners were getting it and they'll continue to nerf it until non-junglers stop using it.
#14megadude1Posted 6/18/2013 5:09:50 PM
even with the nerf on lizard, its still freaking efficient.Yea, give or take another 2 patches until blue ez stops being played.
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#15zeppelin312Posted 6/18/2013 5:11:12 PM
darkwing1232 posted...
Riot has stated that they don't want non-junglers to pick up jungling items. They nerfed Lizard into the ground because too many laners were getting it and they'll continue to nerf it until non-junglers stop using it.


except they didn't
#16Hyper InfernoPosted 6/18/2013 5:30:29 PM
dennis941012 posted...
6-40 true damage > 20 ad
even with bare miniumum armor at at around 50

20 x [100/150] = 14 damage per hit

by the time ezreal gets the item at around 6 ish
4 + 2 x lv
lizard will be dealing at least 18 true damage


The tradeoff here is that in a sustained fight, not a poke war, Lizard Elder will end up doing less damage with the burn being a DoT and all. This requires a team to actually commit to a poking strategy, which can be hard to do in a non-premade team.
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#17Kirbyiscool19Posted 6/18/2013 6:04:59 PM
The point of Blue Ez is that in solo queue you can't depend on your teammates to peel for you, so the CDR and regens help Ezreal spam more Qs.

Blue Ez builds all these utility items because his Q has a hilarious range and every time you hit something with Q at max CDR you can just hit Q in less than a second, giving his ult a hilariously low CD and allowing him to E at will. The CDR on Elder Lizard is integral to this play style.

You trade off damage to be a slippery bastard who is hard to catch and doesn't depend on his teammates to protect him.

You have to admit the way Ezreal's Q works makes Elder Lizard absolutely disgusting.

TL;DR: Blue Ezreal is good and the optimal way to play him.
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#18Frost_shock_FTWPosted 6/18/2013 6:10:13 PM
Kirbyiscool19 posted...
The CDR on Elder Lizard is integral to this play style.


No it isn't, buy a Brutalizer.

You know, like everyone did before Lizard was buffed and BC was nerfed.
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#19KosukeKGAPosted 6/18/2013 6:12:52 PM
Elder Lizard is stupid to buy. Just get a mana elixir for a team fight.

oh boi there's your CDR
hurr derp
#20Shadow EdgePosted 6/18/2013 8:14:22 PM
Hai gais

Brutalizer costs a lot lot less than Lizard, and you only lose out on 10 AD and the useless regens. Arpen makes up for the tiny burn damage.
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