Calculating Attack Speed for Teemo/Vayne/Kog/Twitch- When have you hit max ASPD?

#1Walker_RealPosted 7/16/2013 8:36:29 AM
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Topic, how much +% can you take without attack speed doing nothing / becoming ineffective?

Items like Runaan's, Zephyr, PD, SS, BOTRK, I love them all, but how many can I take before ASPD becomes max or pointless?

So Twitch I go BOTRK, Runaans. Now my aspd is pretty fast, but I like it a little faster. Am I wasting effort getting a PD when I should grab a BT?
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#2OREARRYPosted 7/16/2013 8:38:07 AM
2.5 is the max, i believe
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#3shadow99226Posted 7/16/2013 8:39:07 AM
Caps at 2.5. It takes a bit to get there even with steroids.
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#4DualitypainPosted 7/16/2013 8:42:36 AM(edited)
OREARRY posted...
2.5 is the max, i believe


That's common knowledge. I think he's asking, how much would it take for each of these champs. Each champ has a different base AS, so it would take varying degrees of AS percentages to hit the cap.

Edit: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_champions%27_attack_speed
the chart has a nice little column that gives exactly what you need
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#5Emo Preppy KidPosted 7/16/2013 8:47:32 AM
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#6Walker_Real(Topic Creator)Posted 7/16/2013 8:58:23 AM
Yes, 2.5 I know.

I am referring to the fact that when do we approach this or when does it become useless?

If I'm Vayne and I have BotRK, Statikk, and PD, am I at 2.1 and 2.5 would make me beast with more aspd? Or am I at 2.4 and another aspd item would be a waste?

Thanks
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#7PrintScreenKeyPosted 7/16/2013 9:11:59 AM
Dualitypain posted...
OREARRY posted...
2.5 is the max, i believe


That's common knowledge. I think he's asking, how much would it take for each of these champs. Each champ has a different base AS, so it would take varying degrees of AS percentages to hit the cap.

Edit: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_champions%27_attack_speed
the chart has a nice little column that gives exactly what you need


The chart is inaccurate because:
1) it doesn't take into account passives
2) Some of the stats are wrong like Tristana and Varus having wrong stats.

The chart says kog'maw needs 230.95% attack speed.

What's the real attack speed he needs?

Using the formula of:
2.5 / baseAS - ( 1 + AS/level * (level-1) + AS bonus) = AS needed to reach cap

baseAS = base attack speed
AS/level = attack speed per level
AS bonus = any attack speed steroids

2.5/0.0665 - ( 1 + 0.0265 * 17 + 0.3) = 2.01, or 201%.

If you take 4 points in the offense tree and get the 4% bonus then he needs 196% attack speed.

You should calculate it yourself this way, to make sure it's right, use the gameinfo from the official LoL site.

Vayne
(2.5 / 0.658) - (1+ 0.031*17) = 2.27 or 227%. Subtract 4% for masteries, 223%

Twitch
(2.5 / 0.679) - ( 1+ 0.0338 * 17) = 2.11 or 211%. Subtract his AS steroid of 70% because you dont want to over build AS. 141%. Subtract masteries of 4% for 137%

Teemo
(2.5/0.69) - ( 1 + 0.0338 * 17) = 2.05 or 205%. If you count his element of surprise of 40% then it's 165%.

Remember this formula for all champions.

2.5 / baseAS - ( 1 + AS/level * (level-1)) = AS needed to reach cap.
Subtract any AS steroids.
#8PrintScreenKeyPosted 7/16/2013 9:19:02 AM
Walker_Real posted...
Yes, 2.5 I know.

I am referring to the fact that when do we approach this or when does it become useless?

If I'm Vayne and I have BotRK, Statikk, and PD, am I at 2.1 and 2.5 would make me beast with more aspd? Or am I at 2.4 and another aspd item would be a waste?

Thanks


You don't want to max AS anyway because by the time you get >2 Attack speed, building damage or crit will be immensely more powerful.

But to answer your question:

Vayne AS with BoRK, SS, PD
I will split it up so you know how to calculate it:

0.658 * ( 1 + 0.031 * 17 + 0.4 + 0.4 + 0.5 ) = 1.86

I'm Assuming you want Beserker's Greaves andn Masteries as well

1.86 + 0.658 * 0.24 = 2.018.

To find how much AS it would take to reach 2.5

(2.5 - 2.018) / 0.658 = 0.73 or 73% attack speed.
#9MrFailPosted 7/16/2013 9:26:34 AM
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#10MrFailPosted 7/16/2013 9:28:48 AM
edit: didnt see the chart.