Does Ireila hard counter ryze?

#1happyscrub1Posted 6/6/2014 10:01:15 AM(edited)
Cause just had one go 0/6/1 in laning top vs her with no jungle help. Couldn't do anything about her mid game.
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#2JellicPosted 6/6/2014 9:59:54 AM
Countering is something that should be stomped out. If someone loses that hard they usually suck.
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#3SorrySleepingPosted 6/6/2014 10:00:10 AM
Everyone counters everyone.
EVERYTHING IS COUNTERS!
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#4stoodyhooPosted 6/6/2014 10:02:19 AM
Outplayed maybe? She's good at farming and playing it safe, though I'm pretty sure Ryze has an advantage in that matchup
#5happyscrub1(Topic Creator)Posted 6/6/2014 10:04:14 AM
stoodyhoo posted...
Outplayed maybe? She's good at farming and playing it safe, though I'm pretty sure Ryze has an advantage in that matchup


I saw ryze winning lane at lvl 3. He was 60% health and she was 20%. Next thing I know he dies at lvl 4... and I was like, "What happen? You had her low."

He didn't say anything.
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#6XelltrixPosted 6/6/2014 10:06:15 AM
No.

And in terms of match-ups, I feel like it may be a bit in Irelia's favor early on, but not by too much. Ryze's Snare shuts down her Qing tricks if he reacts fast enough to her diving on a back minion and then he can just harass from range. Snare her when her Hiten's Style is up, win trades...

Actually, I feel like Ryze has the advantage by, like, 6 but I'm not sure since I haven't actually played the match up and I'm just basing it off what i think of their skills.

Definitely not hard-countered by her though.
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#7Rookie_JetPosted 6/6/2014 10:08:39 AM
stoodyhoo posted...
Outplayed maybe? She's good at farming and playing it safe, though I'm pretty sure Ryze has an advantage in that matchup


Yeah, Ryze should have had the advantage. He's ranged with a snare and likes to build tanky. I probably would have gotten a shroud or warden's mail (if she bought AS) first back to make sure I didn't get bursted.

I think people have just forgotten how to play vs Irelia and always underestimate her burst and burst healing. I recently went vs her as Teemo and died once while I was 80% hp and bullying her and she was around 1/3 hp. She all-in'd and took me out in just a little more than the amount of time the stun lasted, getting me with an ult blade as I was fleeing. After that, it was pretty peachy though. Just one lapse in judgement then I stomped her.
#8king0091Posted 6/6/2014 10:14:27 AM
Yes I think she does hard counter him. I used to always lose to ryze top but then I saw people talking about Irelia. I bear one so bad with her. I died once to a gank and stupid tower dive on my part but I still came out of landing 3/2. Just start q and get e at 2. He can do nothing to u if you press him at that level 1 with blade surge. However if you let him get 2 before you and get that prison he will probably end up getting a big lead because of the zoning potential. Level 6 you can kill him easily. Tried. Trim some of the ranged minions and him with you cult then turn on w q to a ranged minion and go ham. If he ever gets distance just q him again because it shouldn't gave went on cool down. Go back to the wave and sustain up then just tower dive.
#9stoodyhooPosted 6/6/2014 10:23:52 AM
Rookie_Jet posted...

Yeah, Ryze should have had the advantage. He's ranged with a snare and likes to build tanky. I probably would have gotten a shroud or warden's mail (if she bought AS) first back to make sure I didn't get bursted.

I think people have just forgotten how to play vs Irelia and always underestimate her burst and burst healing. I recently went vs her as Teemo and died once while I was 80% hp and bullying her and she was around 1/3 hp. She all-in'd and took me out in just a little more than the amount of time the stun lasted, getting me with an ult blade as I was fleeing. After that, it was pretty peachy though. Just one lapse in judgement then I stomped her.


I can definitely attest to the bolded. Her kit allows her to quickly turn a losing fight into a winning one, especially if her ult is up. I seem to always catch people off guard by doing that with her.
#10happyscrub1(Topic Creator)Posted 6/6/2014 10:44:53 AM
I got the replay. I'm gonna watch it, record it, and upload it and let yal see the 1st to kills to decide
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