Singed > Shavanna

#1happyscrub1Posted 6/12/2014 1:06:00 PM
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I tried to tell yal this a long time ago but haven't seen it catch on. She so FoTM and it's such and easy lane for Singed and it counters Shyvanna strong point: Out pushing lanes vs every other top!

It's the main reason people play her because she can so shove hard to avoid fighting stronger champs and to roam to make plays, leave other laners in her dust. But Singed can do the exact same thing to her but even faster. Plus Singed is so much stronger late game than she is.

Plus if Shyvanna is the main engage of the other team (which hard engages are so lacking lately in the meta), he counters that too. She dive, flip that trick right back to the front, throw down glue on her, then go tank their back line lol.


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#2sunfalcon9Posted 6/12/2014 1:07:52 PM
That Shyvana looks really bad getting Hydra instead of Bork against a Singed
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#3refmonPosted 6/12/2014 1:09:00 PM
100% that lee sin did everything for you
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#4happyscrub1(Topic Creator)Posted 6/12/2014 1:10:18 PM
sunfalcon9 posted...
That Shyvana looks really bad getting Hydra instead of Bork against a Singed


BoTRK is risky... especially if we even in gold or I'm ahead. I'll just ignore her and push the wave to tier 2 leaving her to either chase me for no reason or push the waves back, but slower than I can. If you can't kill me fast, then it's not worth it.

Hydra would at least allow her to attempt to keep up in wave pushing with me.
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#5happyscrub1(Topic Creator)Posted 6/12/2014 1:11:27 PM
refmon posted...
100% that lee sin did everything for you


Actually, Lee Sin didn't do much early game. We lost early with Zed snowballing and roaming the map killing everyone. Neither jungler ganked top lane. None of us died top lane either.
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#6deathisajerkPosted 6/12/2014 1:13:16 PM
Taking Flash/Ghost over something useful like TP or Ignite. Get gud son.
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#7Chargers_31Posted 6/12/2014 1:13:37 PM
good job dude! almost at a positive win/loss! keep it up bro@!!!!!
#8sunfalcon9Posted 6/12/2014 1:17:30 PM
happyscrub1 posted...
sunfalcon9 posted...
That Shyvana looks really bad getting Hydra instead of Bork against a Singed


BoTRK is risky... especially if we even in gold or I'm ahead. I'll just ignore her and push the wave to tier 2 leaving her to either chase me for no reason or push the waves back, but slower than I can. If you can't kill me fast, then it's not worth it.

Hydra would at least allow her to attempt to keep up in wave pushing with me.


How did that Shyvana even let you survive early game to be even in gold?
Not even considering how Shyvana let you survive, if you are just proxying, Shyvana would still get her gold to get Bork. That would mean percent damage + attack speed to compound Shyvana's E procs on Singed who's natural health stacking would be demolished

Tiamat would give her superior shoving power compared to Bork but she loses so much without Bork. I also dare say Bork > Hydra in a teamfight, especially if Shyvana was that behind
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#9WyrmcraftPosted 6/12/2014 1:19:08 PM
Shyvana is like an AD singed who is worse at her job but gains the advantage of AD itemization and better lanes against more common picks.

However, she does have a very poor lane against Singed. I expect the Hydra was a conscious decision to try and counter Singed's push, because Shyv does push hard. Unfortunately, no one can outpush singed.
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#10happyscrub1(Topic Creator)Posted 6/12/2014 1:24:51 PM(edited)
sunfalcon9 posted...


How did that Shyvana even let you survive early game to be even in gold?
Not even considering how Shyvana let you survive,


Shyvanna is not that strong early game. I actually almost killed her around lvl 5-6. I don't think I ever seen a Shyvanna kill anyone before lvl 6, 1 vs 1

Singed out trades her. But she's manaless so it breaks out even in the early game.
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