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#201XelltrixPosted 6/30/2014 7:38:41 AM
SoulknightX0 posted...
happyscrub1 posted...
EG gifted the game. Sneaky ain't all that great. He just good at kiting and positioning. Too many times people suicided into him. You have to respect his dash.

Sneaky didn't go looking for early kills... EG went looking to get in his face for no reason only to die.


so sneaky is good at pretty much everything you're supposed to be good at to play adc.

great reasoning buddy.

sneaky didnt go looking for kills.

thats why he dove under a tower for a double on the eg bot.


People just like trashing ADCs.
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#202happyscrub1(Topic Creator)Posted 6/30/2014 7:54:07 AM
Xelltrix posted...
SoulknightX0 posted...
happyscrub1 posted...
EG gifted the game. Sneaky ain't all that great. He just good at kiting and positioning. Too many times people suicided into him. You have to respect his dash.

Sneaky didn't go looking for early kills... EG went looking to get in his face for no reason only to die.


so sneaky is good at pretty much everything you're supposed to be good at to play adc.

great reasoning buddy.

sneaky didnt go looking for kills.

thats why he dove under a tower for a double on the eg bot.


People just like trashing ADCs.


No. Sneaky isn't good at making plays himself. He's a very SAFE good ADC. He rarely take risk. That's why he sucks on every risk taking ADC. That's why he was so good at Ashe last season.

He good at kitig and positioning, but he depends on his team to make plays and control team fights. He's no double lift who can take a risk and jump in front of the frontline and make crazy plays.
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#203happyscrub1(Topic Creator)Posted 6/30/2014 7:57:33 AM
Put it this way. Sneaky is a quarterback that can throw perfect passes when he has a good line. But if his lane is messing up, he's not a quarterback that can run and throw well, or take the ball and run it himself to beat a blitz.
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#204XelltrixPosted 6/30/2014 8:05:10 AM
Except he does make plays and does make plenty of good plays on his own. An ADC without a frontline can't exactly make the flashiest plays so if your team is losing, they're not going to be able o throw everyone on their back and w in the game. DL had that issue when he was the only one on his team that was actually good... It's funny, your quarterback thing works pretty well here but for a completely different reason. ADCs on losing teams are incredibly easy to trash as the reason they're losing while they also get an unwarranted amount of the praise when they're team is doing well.

In the case of Sneaky, I can't even begin understand where your gripes with Sneaky are coming from because he's been making plays and playing safe when he needs to all season as well as all of last season. I don't know how you could even watch one of his Twitch or Lucian games and say he doesn't make plays.
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#205Maniacaly_SanePosted 6/30/2014 8:55:06 AM
Damn, Gleeb and Amazing are really bringing it...

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#206SoulknightX0Posted 6/30/2014 8:57:16 AM
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pretty much this.

Sneaky has some insane balance between playmaking and safety. There's a really good reason as to why the old roaming lemonnation worked well, because c9 can trust sneaky won't die 1v2.
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#207notanoob74Posted 6/30/2014 10:12:32 AM(edited)
C9 hasn't gotten worse; they've peaked since S3 and other teams around them just got better than them. The only reason they've won a few games is because meteos is their saving grace and meteos' high skill on the highest ceiling jungler Lee Sin just dominates.

C9 honestly doesn't deserve the respect they get this split. Imagine Gambit after Edward left then came back- that is C9, they will never be good again, might make worlds but will still get stomped.

My odds for teams to make worlds:
LMQ: 70%, consistently good and can prob at least get 3rd because they don't choke.
Dig: 70%, inconsistenly great. Will prob at least get 3rd through some neat strat, or because they can't possibly throw at baron every single game.
CLG: 60%: Choke masters. They play the game so wrong when they are behind, only their laning phase can get them in.
C9: 55%: win games that matter, have only won one game without lee sin. If they go against idiots who respect them too much like CLG they'll prob win.
TSM: 30%: getting better, they have no weak links but at the same time no great players.
EG: 7.5%: can surprise us, Helios prob has the most idea of what he is doing out of any other player.
coL: 7.5%: biggest heart in LCS, they don't get discouraged from losing. If westrice winks at the camera and picks akali they have 100% chance to make it.
CRS: 0%: even if they make it out of groups they have less than 0.5% to get higher than 4th. I've done the math a thousand times over.
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#208nyrovonnPosted 6/30/2014 1:38:22 PM
notanoob74 posted...
C9 hasn't gotten worse; they've peaked since S3 and other teams around them just got better than them. The only reason they've won a few games is because meteos is their saving grace and meteos' high skill on the highest ceiling jungler Lee Sin just dominates.

C9 honestly doesn't deserve the respect they get this split. Imagine Gambit after Edward left then came back- that is C9, they will never be good again, might make worlds but will still get stomped.

My odds for teams to make worlds:
LMQ: 70%, consistently good and can prob at least get 3rd because they don't choke.
Dig: 70%, inconsistenly great. Will prob at least get 3rd through some neat strat, or because they can't possibly throw at baron every single game.
CLG: 60%: Choke masters. They play the game so wrong when they are behind, only their laning phase can get them in.
C9: 55%: win games that matter, have only won one game without lee sin. If they go against idiots who respect them too much like CLG they'll prob win.
TSM: 30%: getting better, they have no weak links but at the same time no great players.
EG: 7.5%: can surprise us, Helios prob has the most idea of what he is doing out of any other player.
coL: 7.5%: biggest heart in LCS, they don't get discouraged from losing. If westrice winks at the camera and picks akali they have 100% chance to make it.
CRS: 0%: even if they make it out of groups they have less than 0.5% to get higher than 4th. I've done the math a thousand times over.



lol, at the very least lol @ bjerg and turtle not being great
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#209XelltrixPosted 6/30/2014 1:56:38 PM
notanoob74 posted...
C9 hasn't gotten worse; they've peaked since S3 and other teams around them just got better than them. The only reason they've won a few games is because meteos is their saving grace and meteos' high skill on the highest ceiling jungler Lee Sin just dominates.

C9 honestly doesn't deserve the respect they get this split. Imagine Gambit after Edward left then came back- that is C9, they will never be good again, might make worlds but will still get stomped.

My odds for teams to make worlds:
LMQ: 70%, consistently good and can prob at least get 3rd because they don't choke.
Dig: 70%, inconsistenly great. Will prob at least get 3rd through some neat strat, or because they can't possibly throw at baron every single game.
CLG: 60%: Choke masters. They play the game so wrong when they are behind, only their laning phase can get them in.
C9: 55%: win games that matter, have only won one game without lee sin. If they go against idiots who respect them too much like CLG they'll prob win.
TSM: 30%: getting better, they have no weak links but at the same time no great players.
EG: 7.5%: can surprise us, Helios prob has the most idea of what he is doing out of any other player.
coL: 7.5%: biggest heart in LCS, they don't get discouraged from losing. If westrice winks at the camera and picks akali they have 100% chance to make it.
CRS: 0%: even if they make it out of groups they have less than 0.5% to get higher than 4th. I've done the math a thousand times over.


Just a bunch of wut here.
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