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#11gonick2k6Posted 7/16/2014 3:16:43 PM
wanna lane against me then? darius vs wu
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#12tlalynet0Posted 7/16/2014 3:43:54 PM
Wu just W's out of any finishing blow Darius wants to try, they both have mana to think about so sustain isn't the issue. Wu and AA-Q E out of Darius grabs as long as he's pulled behind minions... (I'd think he'd win that trade too, but I'm not sure on the math of it). Since he can E out to minions Darius's spinning axes will never really get a full damage hit, either he hits in melee range or not at all since wu just jumps out of them...

I really don't see what advantage Darius could possibly have in that matchup. Unless wukong E's in for some stupid reason he wins trades. Post 6 Wu has a strong ult and can cancel darius's ult... So... IDK, I just don't see where Darius would pull ahead.
#13TheSlinjaPosted 7/16/2014 4:43:27 PM
darkestmerc posted...


You faced bad Darius' then.


and you faced bad Wu Kongs
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#14RajamicPosted 7/16/2014 7:57:59 PM
Nah, worst is Nasus vs Donger. You can't even get close enough to Wither him without losing half HP to turrets. He can place his turret just outside your tower range and farm your minions while still harassing you with intermittent turret shots and his other abilities. Heck, if he times it right, even if you are literally touching your turret, he can go in, hit you with a grenade, and get back out before your tower fires a shot at him.
#15FireflyV_ONEPosted 7/16/2014 8:28:46 PM
Garen vs. Jayce is literal hell.
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#16Chargers_31Posted 7/16/2014 8:49:26 PM
Rajamic posted...
Nah, worst is Nasus vs Donger. You can't even get close enough to Wither him without losing half HP to turrets. He can place his turret just outside your tower range and farm your minions while still harassing you with intermittent turret shots and his other abilities. Heck, if he times it right, even if you are literally touching your turret, he can go in, hit you with a grenade, and get back out before your tower fires a shot at him.


?

Then you buy sheen and get 3 free stacks as fast as heimer can place turrets
#17ThunderCavalierPosted 7/16/2014 8:56:57 PM
How to win any lane as Nasus if you're up against someone that harasses him a lot:

Rush Warden's Mail/Specter Cowl.

You have just won the lane, barring a bit of Q farming.
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#18RajamicPosted 7/16/2014 9:10:18 PM
Chargers_31 posted...
Rajamic posted...
Nah, worst is Nasus vs Donger. You can't even get close enough to Wither him without losing half HP to turrets. He can place his turret just outside your tower range and farm your minions while still harassing you with intermittent turret shots and his other abilities. Heck, if he times it right, even if you are literally touching your turret, he can go in, hit you with a grenade, and get back out before your tower fires a shot at him.


?

Then you buy sheen and get 3 free stacks as fast as heimer can place turrets


In my experience, by the time you can get Sheen, you are so far behind that even it with a Q won't one-shot his turrets. And they still eat you alive as you get near them.
#19darkestmercPosted 7/17/2014 1:26:49 AM
Alright so since this actually became an argument...

Decimate has a longer range than any of Wukongs skills except for his E. Wukong cant just walk up to Darius and try to fight him.

If Wukong tries to W away, he can still be grabbed by Darius' E. Not to mention that even when invisible, Wukong will leave a trail of blood due to hemorhage so Darius knows where he is.

If Wukong tries to E at Darius, he will probably need to flash out or he will die prior to hitting lv.6.

Darius has built in armor pen so Wukongs passive is nullified. Darius is also more tanky.

Wukong has no built in sustain so hemorhage stacks can easily force him out of lane if he comes within range of Darius' attacks.

Darius can just freeze lane, stand between Wukong and the minions and Wu can't do anything about it.

Also if you are arguing that Wukong can W-Q-E or however variation of skills you can think of to try and harass Darius- understand that Wukong is a lot more mana hungry than Darius, has less range, and will deal less damage to Darius when all is said and done.

And if you dont believe me that Darius counters Wukong here are several sites that agree with me:

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http://www.championselect.net/champions/darius - 5.7k people said Darius counters Wukong (putting Wukong at the #1 champion countered by Darius).

http://www.solomid.net/guide/view/28159-wukong-build-guide-fighter-by-tsanummy - This guide puts Darius as one of the 2 champions with 5 star difficulty (the other being Lee Sin).

http://www.lolking.net/guides/171652 - This guide lists Darius as one of the biggest counters to Wukong in lane and claims that "a good Darius will always beat a good Wukong"

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These are literally the first 2 guides I looked at + champion select.

It isn't exactly a secret that Wukong gets obliterated by Darius. Why are you arguing Gamefaqs?
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#20Chargers_31Posted 7/18/2014 9:18:44 PM
darkestmerc posted...
Wukong has a crappy early game
Darius has dominate early game


Yeah Darius beats him in lane hard