The King of Fighters XII
To people saying that the game is bad
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^Wow, you are almost as big as a fanboy as that guy who gave this a 9 and said the gameplay was perfect. You guys related by any chance? I agree that this game does not meet up to the standards of other fighters, or heck, even just other games. You seem like you're arguing that a game with poor AI shouldn't have additional modes. Well, there is a way to fix this: Fix the AI. If SNK had added modes as the AI was right now, the modes would be straight crap and the game wouldn't profit from it. However, if the AI was improved and the modes were actually good (see: other fighting games story modes, challanges, marathon modes) and had things that rewarded the player (another thing this game is missing, rewards for the player. Think, again, story, boss fights, fan favorite characters), it might be good. And insulting someone by calling them poor? Hell, it wouldn't matter if you did present valid points. You just lost right there due to immaturity. Bottom line: This game does meet the standards of today's video games. The game would be better, and more accurately priced, if it had more modes and the AI to support these modes (I don't understand what your vendetta is against AI, maybe you just suck against the computer?), catered to its niche audience instead of backstabbing them, or was priced lower to match games that have equal content. And look, the game is going down in value as we speak. 40 dollars used at gamestop, and 40 bucks new from many retailers online. My, that was fast! --- "You see what I did thar?" | |
^^^ It seems the dude who predicted KoFXII would go for $40 in three weeks in Amazon was right on the money lol... | |
Wow, you are almost as big as a fanboy as that guy who gave this a 9 and said the gameplay was perfect. You guys related by any chance? I agree that this game does not meet up to the standards of other fighters, or heck, even just other games. You seem like you're arguing that a game with poor AI shouldn't have additional modes. Well, there is a way to fix this: Fix the AI. If SNK had added modes as the AI was right now, the modes would be straight crap and the game wouldn't profit from it. However, if the AI was improved and the modes were actually good (see: other fighting games story modes, challanges, marathon modes) and had things that rewarded the player (another thing this game is missing, rewards for the player. Think, again, story, boss fights, fan favorite characters), it might be good. I have not once agreed with Gabrius and his review. Go ahead and read through about 140 posts in his topic, and you'll never catch me mentioning anything close to related about his topic. In fact, I disagree about his score for his review and his reasons for leaving certain things out in his review, but that's irrelevant. I'm arguing that any game doesn't need additional modes to beat the AI. Is it that hard to comprehend? I have also agreed that the AI is horrible in this game, but who needs a good AI when you have human competition in the first place? That's the beauty of playing fighting games; actually using your brain to outsmart your opponent, not remember patterns and abuse it. If you want to play a game that has fighting, a story, and a boss fight, then you might as well stick to RPGs. And insulting someone by calling them poor? Hell, it wouldn't matter if you did present valid points. You just lost right there due to immaturity. And him calling me a poor consumer just because I actually like a game for its gameplay is any better? He basically insulted me by going to a board and trolling by telling someone they wasted their money on a game they like, and I just simply retorted to his post, even if it's in poor behavior. You may have think I lost, but I have yet to see anyone properly respond to my posts about the AI. Why have different modes when abusing the AI is hardly any fun and shows no signs of skill whatsoever? --- I tried seeing from your point of view, but your head was too far up your ass. http://i43.tinypic.com/dfvpdh.gif | |
Bottom line: This game does meet the standards of today's video games. The game would be better, and more accurately priced, if it had more modes and the AI to support these modes (I don't understand what your vendetta is against AI, maybe you just suck against the computer?), catered to its niche audience instead of backstabbing them, or was priced lower to match games that have equal content. Me sucking against the computer is not the problem. I'm more than capable of abusing the **** out of AI holes as much as the next guy. Check out my gamer score for SF4, and you'll see I already got 1000/1000. I've played enough Arcade Mode to beat the game with every character on at least medium (and beat Gouken on the hardest difficulty), played enough Time Trials to beat the computer fast enough to get gold medals in, and only beat Survival Mode enough to get gold medals in its respective stages. That didn't stop it from being boring and such a chore. Could the game have more characters? Of course! Does the game play well? Yeah, IMO. Does this game deserve a near perfect score or anywhere near that? Hell no. But that doesn't stop the game from being fun. While the game does have its flaws, I still find it fun to play. The only thing you guys can complain about is the lack of modes and horrible AI patterns. The gameplay itself is decent and definitely enjoyable. It could use improvements, but we'll wait and see if they can cook up something different for the next installment, if it ever happens. I personally think people who primarily play a game to play against to computer is playing for all the wrong reasons. I think you should only play against the computer if you don't have a choice. I believe the computer is there for the lack of having a human opponent to play against. Now that we have online play these days, what to do we need the computer for? Are you that scared to play against people better than you? Sorry, but me liking a game doesn't make me a fanboy. I'm fully aware of the flaws this game has, but there are some "flaws" (i.e. lack of modes) I simply don't agree on. The difference is that I've come to accept some of these flaws, and can only hope that they'll do better next time. This game is far from perfect, but it's also far from being crap, too. --- I tried seeing from your point of view, but your head was too far up your ass. http://i43.tinypic.com/dfvpdh.gif | |
Pardon me for shortening your posts, but you type of lot and I don't have unlimited space. "And him calling me a poor consumer just because I actually like a game for its gameplay is any better? He basically insulted me by going to a board and Blahblahblah Looks like the mods disagreed with you. "I'm arguing that any game doesn't need additional modes to beat the AI. Is it that hard to comprehend? ... stick to RPGs." I don't think you understand video games... you don't play additional modes in games to beat the AI. You play them because they are fun. Whether this be for rewards such as story, additional content "Me sucking against the computer is not the problem. I'm more than capable of abusing the **** out of AI holes as much as the next guy. Check out my gamer score for SF4, and you'll see I already got 1000/1000... blah blah look at me... That didn't stop it from being boring and such a chore." Have you tried not abusing the AI and playing the game like you're supposed to? And oh, wow! This guy has 1k/1k gamerscore for ST4! He MUST know what he is talking about! You don't get the point. In all seriousness, you might want to start taking some reading comprehension courses. If the modes are going to be boring, then they might as well not have them. I'm saying this game needs to have quality modes. Otherwise its just like any other XBLA Fighter that people get just for multiplayer and should be priced accordingly. "Could the game have more characters? Of course! Does the game play well? Yeah, IMO. Does this game deserve a near perfect score or anywhere near that? Hell no. But that doesn't stop the game from being fun. While the game does have its flaws, I still find it fun to play. The only thing you guys can complain about is the lack of modes and horrible AI patterns. The gameplay itself is decent and definitely enjoyable. It could use improvements, but we'll wait and see if they can cook up something different for the next installment, if it ever happens." Fun, yes. I agree. But its only just as fun as any other $10-15 fighter on XBLA. I get the same amount of fun out of KoF98, SSF2HD and MvC2. "I personally think people who primarily play a game to play against to computer is playing for all the wrong reasons. I think you should only play against the computer if you don't have a choice. I believe the computer is there for the lack of having a human opponent to play against. Now that we have online play these days, what to do we need the computer for? Are you that scared to play against people better than you?" You might just be the most dense person on this board. A game doesn't need a computer to play against. There are many good multiplayer only games, look at Battlefield 1943; note the $15 price tag. However, if its going to price itself at $60, it better damn well have more content than a game thats priced at $10-15. Otherwise, it will sell horribly and the price will drop very quickly to match what people are willing to pay for it. And look, the game is dropping is price as we speak. Point proven. "Sorry, but me liking a game doesn't make me a fanboy. I'm fully aware of the flaws this game has, but there are some "flaws" (i.e. lack of modes) I simply don't agree on. The difference is that I've come to accept some of these flaws, and can only hope that they'll do better next time. This game is far from perfect, but it's also far from being crap, too." First, accepting flaws doesn't make them better. It just means your standards are lower than others. Also, I never said the game is crap, I just said it was overpriced for what it was. And you, sir are most un-fun to discuss things with. It seems you ignore the general point of what people are saying and just spit out what you want, relevant or not. --- "You see what I did thar?" | |
Looks like the mods disagreed with you. Sorry, but I don't bother marking posts. Only those who mark posts are those who are ass hurt from said "offensive" material whether it's flaming or those who are just too uptight about pr0n. I don't need the mods to fight my fight and help me win fights. I don't think you understand video games... you don't play additional modes in games to beat the AI. You play them because they are fun. Whether this be for rewards such as story, additional content Then like I said, stick to RPGs if you want to play for the story. I kept asking how you find fighting the AI fun, and you always dodge the question. Have you tried not abusing the AI and playing the game like you're supposed to? And oh, wow! This guy has 1k/1k gamerscore for ST4! He MUST know what he is talking about! You don't get the point. In all seriousness, you might want to start taking some reading comprehension courses. If the modes are going to be boring, then they might as well not have them. I'm saying this game needs to have quality modes. Otherwise its just like any other XBLA Fighter that people get just for multiplayer and should be priced accordingly. ST4? Already off to a bad start. If you don't abuse AI holes, then please tell me how you beat the computer without finding a way around their patterns. Can you even do high-low mix-ups against the computer? At best, they block out of complete randomness, or you find a common loop hole to get past their defenses. If you honestly think you can play "normally" against the AI as you would a human, then it goes to show that you probably have the skills of a flowchart player. Dodging the question as to why you think playing against the AI is actually remotely fun. You might just be the most dense person on this board. A game doesn't need a computer to play against. There are many good multiplayer only games, look at Battlefield 1943; note the $15 price tag. However, if its going to price itself at $60, it better damn well have more content than a game thats priced at $10-15. Otherwise, it will sell horribly and the price will drop very quickly to match what people are willing to pay for it. And look, the game is dropping is price as we speak. Point proven. If you're going by content to play with alone, then I'm sorry but I still believe KOF XII beats BF1943 in terms of amount of content. If anything, comparing a fighting game to a FPS game is like comparing apples to oranges. The thing about FPS games is that you need a lot of different maps to play on to get some variety. BF1943 has only 3 maps (4, if you want to include that dog **** of a map called Coral Sea). KOF XII may have only 5 stages, but you picking a different stage in fighting games doesn't change the gameplay experience like it does in FPS games. BF1943 only has 3 classes to choose from. That's it. KOF XII has 22 characters with every character that has a unique moveset. You can put them in teams of 3 thus giving you hundreds of different combinations of teams you can choose from. You don't even know for a fact that people have traded in their game or the reason the price is dropping is due to lack of content alone. How about the fact that SNK(P) have failed to deliver on a quality netcode? --- I tried seeing from your point of view, but your head was too far up your ass. http://i43.tinypic.com/dfvpdh.gif | |
First, accepting flaws doesn't make them better. It just means your standards are lower than others. Also, I never said the game is crap, I just said it was overpriced for what it was. And I never said accepting flaws doesn't make it any better, either. If the game has solid gameplay, then why cry over spilled milk? Everyone already knew what they were getting themselves into before the game was released, so what's the point of complaining about lack of content when the game plays well? I don't understand how my standards are low just for liking a game purely for its gameplay. Talk about irrelevant crap. Again, price is subjective, and there is no right or wrong answer. You believe it's overpriced, but I believe it's worth the money because I don't think about the superficial things. I also didn't need someone tell me how I should be spending my money. All we're gonna do is go back and forth about this. And you, sir are most un-fun to discuss things with. It seems you ignore the general point of what people are saying and just spit out what you want, relevant or not. Says the person who have dodged my question ever since the first post. And yes, what I said is relevant whether you agree with it or not. --- I tried seeing from your point of view, but your head was too far up your ass. http://i43.tinypic.com/dfvpdh.gif | |
...you probably have the skills of a flowchart player. What exactly is a flowchart player? --- "No, I will never fail you, through to the end--your guardian standing by your side or worlds away!" --Apollo in "The Eumenides " | |
^^^ You're so silly... (>_>)... (Yeah... Sigh... The joke sucks...) Here it is in all its glory!!! The famous Ken flowchart: http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1470/kenflow.png |
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