Max Payne 3
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Brilliant Twist and Thoughtful Ending (Ultimate Spoilers)
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Victor is a tough-on-crime local politician who is involved in 3 major criminal operations: 1. Murdering the male members of his family to acquire his brother's fortune. 2. Arbitrarily arresting favela inhabitants or suspects and reaping a huge profit from both harvesting and selling their organs, as well as all the overhead saved not having to process, house, and try those arrested. 3. He hires and frames a notorious ex-policeman from New York with a deadly past and of questionable character/mental health for all the negative consequences of an outbreak of gun violence in the city, which allows his UFE paramilitaries to harvest even more organs and gains him even more political capital by being perceived as even tougher on crime, as well as a true patriot, defending his native soil from neo-imperialistic type violent gringos. The human organ harvesting was a brilliant twist, simple yet well-thought out, makes perfect sense, but still a surprise. There's plenty of literature on the horrible things humans do to one another, and the desolate hotel suggested human trafficking? Sex slavery? Those arrested never come out of the building? Was it an underground human smuggling tunnel to a jungle-based drug lab? Or to a pharmeceutical testing facility testing drugs, possibly to make UFE supersoldiers? They had perfected some kind of brain-washing drug regimen to make anyone into loyal UFE? They were stealing the "votes" of the people (and directing those votes to Victor) by disappearing them and then using their identities? A murderous death cult making midnight sacrifices? Soylent Green? The film "Hostel"? What was it? The answer was both simple yet fits perfectly, it makes all the heartless evil sense in the world: why waste the organs of those miserable wretches who will die raped, filthy, drugged, and forsaken in the gutter anyway. When the rich and powerful have taken everything from the poor including their dignity, their dreams, and even the very shirts off their backs, what is left? Why, their persons themselves of course! Their bodies, their organs, take everything, exploit all, absolute profit, glory to Mammon. Makes you wonder how many of the forced disappearances in South America or other places during various periods of civil unrest ended up in a new kidney for a Kennedy or a new cornea for a Saudi prince or a new heart for Dick Cheney or a new pancreas for a star athlete, or a new liver for any of the trashy millionaire Hollywood stars in rehab who need a new one for the old one they f***ed up and don't care where it comes from. How many seniors from the Bilderberg group have gotten an "emergency" organ "donation"? Vagrants and impoverished people go missing all the time, why not have some "good" come out of it? So much for "deceased only" transplants. It's really quite salient though, they will take everything from the slum-dwellers, raping their children in rampant prostitution, stealing their futures by embezzling funds meant for education, healthcare, sanitation, law enforcement, fire protection, etc. for hookers and blow. They will pillage it all, including their very bodies and parts, and after they are done, guys like Victor (of which there are no shortage in ths world, especially politicians) will probably piss on their ashes, and why? Probably a mix of varying levels of sociopathic inclinations, sadism, greed, atheism, cunning, and a distorted, animalistic view of what reality could be vs. what it should be. And Max? He's real. There's guys like Max, in that they've lost it all, and they walk the streets of every city, and also men like the retired tourist cop, who saw Hell but was never dragged down into it. How do those 2 realities co-exist? How is that fair? What can Max do? It's a difficult question, but putting holes in guys like Victor seems as good an idea as any. It's not like Max has anything left to live for except the next bottle of Jack Daniels, right? | |
In before someone incorrectly labels this a wall of text. In before someone says: "tl:dr" despite it being a text based forum. On to the subject at hand, I like your analysis and interpretation of the story's subject matter, however why did you include atheism among traits like sociopathic inclinations, sadism and greed when analysing figures like Victor? Are you implying atheism would infer lesser morals or ethical philosophy? I'm not trying to nitpick your interpretation, but among a slue of traits generally perceived by most as negative, Atheism just stuck out like a sore thumb for me. --- Gamertag: LordMahemium - RIP Sparky Satanic Overlord of The Bar With No Name | |
I personally think the story gets kind of ridiculous when they bring about the organs. It is the reason why they made Max not kill Serrano, because Rock* thought we'd get more satisfaction with him killing the surgeon? WRONG. People have argued about Max's morals being the reason but that theory smells like BS. I felt no shock value or anger when they were just literally taking people off the street to harvest their organs. I rolled my eyes, that's pretty much it. I still do not know what they were thinking when they have Max allow Serrano to kill the surgeon. Were we supposed to feel pity for him? Were we supposed to feel happy for him? I stand by my comments that it is bad writing, something CoDguy or something and Ch3wy disagrees with. I feel it was tacked on, but it did prolong the game and gave me some more reason to shoot people without conscious, while people here defend Max Payne as having his own set of morals for not killing Serrano. What a load of crap. | |
I feel like all that's described in the OP is what gives Max a reason to live again; the fact that he didn't want to just get the hell out of Sao Paulo after Rodrigo got killed and he realized there was some kind of conspiracy shows he's still a decent person. Before that, he mentioned how he knew about the chop-shop around the corner of his apartment, but he didn't care. After uncovering the organ-trafficking ring, the UFE's corruption and Victor's plot, he goes out of his way to make things right. At the beginning of the game, he feels sorry for himself and, judging by how self-deprecating he is throughout the game, probably hates what he is: a killer. By the end of the game, he accepts that he's a "dumb-move kind of guy" and he apparently accepts that he vanquishes evil through violence. To top it off, he saves a few more people from the favelas, and he saves a mother and her child, something he failed to do years ago. The last time he meets the ex-cop (who some theorize is just a figment of Max's imagination), the guy doesn't say much like he did the previous two times. When the cop asks what Max is doing there in the airport, Max says "I don't know... trying to make a difference, giving back." It seems like since Max has finally found a purpose again, there's nothing left for the cop to say to him. I could see him back to NJ and clearing out the Demarco crime syndicate, maybe traveling elsewhere to set things right. --- "If you don't talk to your daughter about sex......I will." -Ridley, wanting to talk to your daughter. | |
I look at Max not killing Serrano this way. He was fighting his way through the hotel, knows something is very wrong and see's them burning bodies. He sees Serrano and probably every fiber of his being wanted to pull the trigger but seeing him busted up and broken it kinda confused Max, made his unsure what to do. I think he let Serrano go because honestly he didn't care anymore, he realized there was something bigger going on and wanted to find out the culprit. Even if Serrano had killed Fabiana at that point Max was so confused that it was put in the back of his mind. Now if he had come across Serrano before the hotel no doubt he would have killed him without a second thought. Though I do wish R* had put in the choice whether to kill him or not. --- Why is it alright to be going around, going mental with a gun, shooting all the monkeys and killing them? Because one day we're going to run out. | |
BigJohnWV04 posted... I look at Max not killing Serrano this way. He was fighting his way through the hotel, knows something is very wrong and see's them burning bodies. He sees Serrano and probably every fiber of his being wanted to pull the trigger but seeing him busted up and broken it kinda confused Max, made his unsure what to do. I think he let Serrano go because honestly he didn't care anymore, he realized there was something bigger going on and wanted to find out the culprit. Even if Serrano had killed Fabiana at that point Max was so confused that it was put in the back of his mind. Now if he had come across Serrano before the hotel no doubt he would have killed him without a second thought. Though I do wish R* had put in the choice whether to kill him or not. Out of all the build ups in villains in this game, Serrano was one of the biggest. That surgeon who is desperately trying to offer you money? I don't even know his name. Yeah Rock* should haven given us an option. I really think someone thought we'd get more satisfaction from seeing a random bad guy surgeon that we just met get killed than Serrano. I chock that up to bad writing. | |
Rome218 posted... BigJohnWV04 posted...I look at Max not killing Serrano this way. He was fighting his way through the hotel, knows something is very wrong and see's them burning bodies. He sees Serrano and probably every fiber of his being wanted to pull the trigger but seeing him busted up and broken it kinda confused Max, made his unsure what to do. I think he let Serrano go because honestly he didn't care anymore, he realized there was something bigger going on and wanted to find out the culprit. Even if Serrano had killed Fabiana at that point Max was so confused that it was put in the back of his mind. Now if he had come across Serrano before the hotel no doubt he would have killed him without a second thought. Though I do wish R* had put in the choice whether to kill him or not. Yeah it did seem like Serrano was the mastermind the entire time. I guess R* thought that would be a nice twist, this bad guy you think is pure evil turns out to be a pawn in a grander scheme and gets his ass whipped and basically gets taken down a few notches. I mean it's a nice twist but I do wish they could have given us the the option to kill him, I mean after all we got to chose whether to kill Becker or not (unless R* just implemented that just for an achievement). --- Why is it alright to be going around, going mental with a gun, shooting all the monkeys and killing them? Because one day we're going to run out. | |
Rome218 posted... BigJohnWV04 posted...I look at Max not killing Serrano this way. He was fighting his way through the hotel, knows something is very wrong and see's them burning bodies. He sees Serrano and probably every fiber of his being wanted to pull the trigger but seeing him busted up and broken it kinda confused Max, made his unsure what to do. I think he let Serrano go because honestly he didn't care anymore, he realized there was something bigger going on and wanted to find out the culprit. Even if Serrano had killed Fabiana at that point Max was so confused that it was put in the back of his mind. Now if he had come across Serrano before the hotel no doubt he would have killed him without a second thought. Though I do wish R* had put in the choice whether to kill him or not. Pay more attention in the first level. Thats all I'm gonna say. --- "This, is my bro. This is his party. He's the guest of honor. Today, is his birthday..." | |
AlleyBoi420 posted... Rome218 posted...BigJohnWV04 posted...I look at Max not killing Serrano this way. He was fighting his way through the hotel, knows something is very wrong and see's them burning bodies. He sees Serrano and probably every fiber of his being wanted to pull the trigger but seeing him busted up and broken it kinda confused Max, made his unsure what to do. I think he let Serrano go because honestly he didn't care anymore, he realized there was something bigger going on and wanted to find out the culprit. Even if Serrano had killed Fabiana at that point Max was so confused that it was put in the back of his mind. Now if he had come across Serrano before the hotel no doubt he would have killed him without a second thought. Though I do wish R* had put in the choice whether to kill him or not. Aha! Good pick up!! =) | |
BigJohnWV04 posted... Rome218 posted...BigJohnWV04 posted...I look at Max not killing Serrano this way. He was fighting his way through the hotel, knows something is very wrong and see's them burning bodies. He sees Serrano and probably every fiber of his being wanted to pull the trigger but seeing him busted up and broken it kinda confused Max, made his unsure what to do. I think he let Serrano go because honestly he didn't care anymore, he realized there was something bigger going on and wanted to find out the culprit. Even if Serrano had killed Fabiana at that point Max was so confused that it was put in the back of his mind. Now if he had come across Serrano before the hotel no doubt he would have killed him without a second thought. Though I do wish R* had put in the choice whether to kill him or not. "That surgeon" has a name. If you payed more attention, you'd notice what it is. |
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