Deathclaws do NOT ignore DT.

#1Sniping_TurtlePosted 12/31/2010 4:51:43 PM
I did a quick and simple test to prove it.

1) Go to a place with Deathclaws with your favourite piece of armor.
2) Note your health and total DT with and without armor (for If you took toughness and the armor implant)
3) Equip armor, get attention of deathclaw (try not to hurt it if you can).
4) Get hit, note change in health, heal, repeat.
5) After a few times, unequip armor, get hit, note health, heal, repeat.
6) Consistent Data.

My Results. Normal Difficulty. Noral hits, minus Criticals

Level 35 - 370 HP

With T-51b - 41 DT

HP after - 311

Without Armour - 10 DT

HP after - 280

Note: There were a few abnormal hits that took off more health, which I disregarded as critical hits.

Shadowmaster's Results

DT 36, HP 395
With Remnants Power Armor, after being hit my HP was reduced to:
307
307
307
307
307
305
305
304
301
301
This mirrored the degradation of my armor...

DT 0, HP 395
With underwear, after being hit my HP was reduced to:
271
271
271
271
271
271
271
271
271
271
This is noticeably greater damage.

Testing with Mex-X resulted in:
DT 0, HP 395, DR 25
270 - Hey look! I-
302
302
302
302
302
302
302
302
302

Nevermind...Some sort of anti-crit or something.


Judging by the rise in damage, Shadowmaster might of been playing on Hard or maybe V Hard.

Based on Shadow's Data

DR = 124 x .25 = 31, 124 - 31 = 93. 395 - 302 = 93
DT = 124 - 36 = 88. 395 - 307 = 88

Thanks Shadowmaster_M for the backing up the results and for the DR test.

Feel free to test for yourself, but by the looks of it, Deathclaws do not ignore DT or DR, like a lot of people say.
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#2Shadowmaster_MPosted 12/31/2010 4:53:41 PM
Nope, just Normal difficulty. I suppose testing should be done on Very Hard and/or Hardcore to see if they acquire DT ignorance.
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#3Sniping_Turtle(Topic Creator)Posted 12/31/2010 4:54:12 PM
Sorry, that should be "Opposite to what people say".

So just cause the Deathclaw Gauntlet ignored DR in Fallout 3 doesn't mean Deathclaws do. If the GECK says they ignore DT/DR, then it must be a glitch or their lying, cause in-game they don't.
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#4Sniping_Turtle(Topic Creator)Posted 12/31/2010 4:55:47 PM
Hmm, wonder why the increase in damage then... when I did it they were hitting me for around 100 damage, while for you it seems they were hitting for 124 damage...

How odd.
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#5Mobile_PlatformPosted 12/31/2010 4:56:36 PM
Enemy difficulty scales with the difficulty setting. I think Deathclaw's operate differently on Very Hard.
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#6Shadowmaster_MPosted 12/31/2010 4:56:53 PM
I didn't have Toughness or any other natural DT.
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#7Sniping_Turtle(Topic Creator)Posted 12/31/2010 4:58:40 PM
Even then, with the normal 10 DT, they were hitting me for 90 health, which with the equation would equal out to 100 total damage.

Which Deathclaws did you go to?
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#8PathlessBulletPosted 12/31/2010 4:58:55 PM
DC`s hit so hard in higher difficulties that you can't really have a high enough DT for the threshold to not be broken.
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#9Shadowmaster_MPosted 12/31/2010 5:00:30 PM
The ones in the Quarry, just listed as "Deathclaw" in the name.
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#10Sniping_Turtle(Topic Creator)Posted 12/31/2010 5:02:56 PM
Ah yes, Deathclaws in the Quarry do 125 damage, while the one I did was outside the Quarry, which only does 100.
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