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Hi, so I'm pretty early in the game(haven't even gotten to Bugsy yet) and I've decided on a future team of Typhlosion, Ampharos, Golduck, and either Espeon/Umbreon. I would really like to have Umbreon as I've never used him before, but I've heard his offense is so bad that he's just not worth it. Is this true, and I should just use Espeon?
Umbreon sucks. It's more of a wall Pokemon then it is an attacking one.
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I've had no problems with Umbreon in-game. Then again, it's my favorite Pokemon >_>
Just give him Toxic and watch your enemies slowly die
Like most wall type pokemon, Umbreon is one of the best pokemon in game. Boost it up with X items and it becomes unstoppable. Toss a couple Sand Attacks or Double Teams on the first pokemon and then boost its stats so that it can wipe the rest of the opponent's team down. A level 50 or so Umbreon can easily take down full teams of level 70+ pokemon this way in game.
I wish you could replay the game without losing pokes/items and with th trainers being higher lvls the 2nd time ala borderlands/deadisland.Tthat way you could playthrough with any team you want without having to trade in the beginning for the pokes you want to run though with, or trading all your good pokes/items to a different game at the end then restarting. Because i would like to do an all evee form run.
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When playing in-game, what's wrong with having a Pokemon who's "offense is so bad?"
My favorite pokemon is eevee and I try to fit one into my in-game team whenever possible.
Umbreon is a good pokemon, but in-game you're going to be fighting an uphill battle the whole way the elite four.
Pros: Super defenses, can get somewhat early (mid-early).
Cons: Horrible offense and really shallow movepool. It's best moves require TM's you don't get until post-elite four or breeding, both of which are tedious. Fighting using it is mainly toxic-stall-tactics or boosting-up, so any fight will be long and drawn out (it's tailored to doing this). This can be useful in boss battles but not so much for trainers.
Overall, Espeon is the easier choice with a more immediate pay-off in-game (and there are a lot of fighting/poison opponents to use it on). Umbreon can be used, but will take a lot more investment.
Unless this is a nuzlocke run. Then Umbreon's survivability is a HUGE plus.
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I've been currently playing with an Umbreon-based team. All you need is Surf and a double-battle, then the rest is easy.
1. Catch a Smeargle
2. Breed a male Smeargle
--The point of this is to get a level one Smeargle, so you can get a second and third Sketch quickly
3. Hatch Togepi
4. Raise Togepi to level 28, learn Wish
5. Give Togepi a held item to reduce speed (such as Macho Brace from in-game trade)
6. Engage in double battle, sketch Wish
7. Level Smeargle to 11
8. Engage in battle in Slowpoke Well, fight Slowpoke, Sketch Yawn or Curse
9. Level Smeargle to 21, sketch remaining Slowpoke attack
10. Obtain female Eevee, breed with Smeargle
11. Level baby Eevee up to level 36, learn Baton Pass
12. Evolve Eevee to Umbreon
14. Profit! You now how a Baton Pass/Curse/Wish/Yawn Umbreon! Add Technician Scizor for extra flavour.
Lots of work, but oh-so-much fun. If you want to save time and skip steps 1 through 10, I should have spare Eevee babies with the Egg Moves. If you want one, send me a PM.