rice_noodlesPosted 2/21/2013 10:18:15 PM | Translations:
"So anyways, I can't provide a single source where Kojima outright says the game is not "canon" using the specific word of canon, I'm going to pretend the old games doesn't break the fourth wall or parody itself, I'm going to make up on the spot the idea that satire = non-canon. And I know the word canon so well that I can't even spell canon right.
So yeah, the game is non-canon." |
KerrackPosted 2/21/2013 10:19:10 PM | [This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator] |
KerrackPosted 2/21/2013 10:20:09 PM | Hey Kamehameha, would it bother you if I called my schlong a cannon? It DOES shoot projectiles, after all... --- People who complain about dubs shouldn't be allowed to speak the language that they are complaining about. If you love Japanese so much, stop butchering english |
lokithefoolPosted 2/21/2013 11:00:59 PM | KA_ME_HA_ME_HA posted...Snorlax_exlax posted...
KA_ME_HA_ME_HA posted...
Do people really think they can decide what's canon? In certain instances...
One of the gameboy Castlevania games had a really messed up story, so it is officially retconed by Konami.
I mean, if fans really didn't like something, the author could just retcon it.
I know, I said the same thing. People can't decide if something is canon or not, but they can choose to hate the decision. If enough people hate it, the author will retcon it (in some cases).
In the end though, it's up to the author. For people who say that Kojima has to come out and say it, you do realize that he probably over saw the whole thing? He didn't write it, but I'm sure a he read through the plot and gave the okay. The writer can only call the game canon if Kojima says it's okay. Since the writer said the game was canon, chances are he got the go ahead from Kojima. So does that make DmC canon lol? I think its pretty simple each story is an isolated occurrence a person can try to bastardize, and change it all they want afterwords, but the way that individual story was originally told at that time is all that matters. Not whoever created it, or owns the intellectual rights to it. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FanonDiscontinuity |
KerrackPosted 2/21/2013 11:20:02 PM | lokithefool posted...KA_ME_HA_ME_HA posted...
Snorlax_exlax posted...
KA_ME_HA_ME_HA posted...
Do people really think they can decide what's canon? In certain instances...
One of the gameboy Castlevania games had a really messed up story, so it is officially retconed by Konami.
I mean, if fans really didn't like something, the author could just retcon it.
I know, I said the same thing. People can't decide if something is canon or not, but they can choose to hate the decision. If enough people hate it, the author will retcon it (in some cases).
In the end though, it's up to the author. For people who say that Kojima has to come out and say it, you do realize that he probably over saw the whole thing? He didn't write it, but I'm sure a he read through the plot and gave the okay. The writer can only call the game canon if Kojima says it's okay. Since the writer said the game was canon, chances are he got the go ahead from Kojima.
So does that make DmC canon lol? I think its pretty simple each story is an isolated occurrence a person can try to bastardize, and change it all they want afterwords, but the way that individual story was originally told at that time is all that matters. Not whoever created it, or owns the intellectual rights to it.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FanonDiscontinuity Unfortunately yes. DMC is canon. Which is a giant "Eff you!" to the people (Like myself) who actually played the first 4. It's like they're saying, "Hey, remember that awesome fight you did? Yeah, it never happened. Sorry 'bout that. Better luck next time." --- People who complain about dubs shouldn't be allowed to speak the language that they are complaining about. If you love Japanese so much, stop butchering english |
OrangeWizardPosted 2/21/2013 11:38:46 PM | From: Kerrack | #115It's like they're saying, "Hey, remember that awesome fight you did? Yeah, it never happened. Sorry 'bout that. Better luck next time." >Implying that you participated in any awesome fights They're right. It never actually happened because it's a video game. --- Trolling and making valid arguments are not mutually exclusive things. |
KA_ME_HA_ME_HAPosted 2/21/2013 11:41:12 PM | lokithefool posted...KA_ME_HA_ME_HA posted...
Snorlax_exlax posted...
KA_ME_HA_ME_HA posted...
Do people really think they can decide what's canon? In certain instances...
One of the gameboy Castlevania games had a really messed up story, so it is officially retconed by Konami.
I mean, if fans really didn't like something, the author could just retcon it.
I know, I said the same thing. People can't decide if something is canon or not, but they can choose to hate the decision. If enough people hate it, the author will retcon it (in some cases).
In the end though, it's up to the author. For people who say that Kojima has to come out and say it, you do realize that he probably over saw the whole thing? He didn't write it, but I'm sure a he read through the plot and gave the okay. The writer can only call the game canon if Kojima says it's okay. Since the writer said the game was canon, chances are he got the go ahead from Kojima.
So does that make DmC canon lol? I think its pretty simple each story is an isolated occurrence a person can try to bastardize, and change it all they want afterwords, but the way that individual story was originally told at that time is all that matters. Not whoever created it, or owns the intellectual rights to it.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FanonDiscontinuity Yes, DmC is canon. Luckily it's an alternate universe, so it's not canon to DMC in any way. However, the DmC series is canon (and it's only 1 game). And dude, the creator has final say. There is no arguing this. If Kojima says the game is canon (and he pretty much gave the go ahead for the team writing it to say it's canon), then it is. --- [INSERT SIGNATURE HERE] |
rice_noodlesPosted 2/21/2013 11:51:18 PM | Kerrack posted...Unfortunately yes. DMC is canon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxFPh1udmLE |
gray_fox_00Posted 2/22/2013 4:33:28 AM | I like how they completely ignore the post where Kojima Studios creative producer says word for word that this game is canon. --- A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice |
Zeak_BullseyePosted 2/22/2013 5:43:01 AM | gray_fox_00 posted...I like how they completely ignore the post where Kojima Studios creative producer says word for word that this game is canon. --- [Insert unfunny and horrible signature here] |