The ultimate challenge?

#1SolidDBZPosted 3/26/2013 11:37:26 AM(edited)
Excluding any ridiculous ones that only get boring. Is it no upgrades (skills allowed because it is boring without them) s ranked Very Hard and Revengeance?
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#2Chain_StrikePosted 3/26/2013 11:37:14 AM
That's the run I wish to do. Got all the cool moves yet health, FC and HF upgrades are are the minimum. Should be an interesting run.
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#3SolidDBZ(Topic Creator)Posted 3/26/2013 11:38:23 AM
Forgot to mention S rank. Edited post.
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#4DJ_0000Posted 3/26/2013 11:41:45 AM
No upgrades Revengeance (no wigs, no Armour breaker/Stun Blade) will probably be the ultimate one. The no skill run Raeng did would probably be interesting since you'd have to figure out new ways to avoid damage and you wouldn't have aerial parry.
#5Chain_StrikePosted 3/26/2013 11:52:18 AM
the no skill run doesn't sound interesting. the stylish factor goes down a few notches for me since I can't do awesome dodge attacks, nor can I do any palm strikes, or breakdance. Kills the fun really.
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#6RaengPosted 3/26/2013 11:54:10 AM
^You'd be surprised actually. Though a few fights go a bit down the drain spectacle wise you'll be playing a lot more thoughtful. Fights will be all about spacing all of a sudden and complex BladeMode cancels to get as much damage in before getting out of there.

Try r-01 with it, it's solid fun!
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#7Emi3280Posted 3/26/2013 11:56:31 AM
-Revengeance Diffuculty
-S Rank for everything
-No positive upgrades at all
-Wooden Sword, weakened to the max

Now, that's hell.
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#8yarrmateysPosted 3/26/2013 12:00:48 PM
On new games, VH is harder to S-rank than REV.

Here are my 2 topics listing progress and tactics for new game S-rank runs. I did new game REV all upgrades allowed S-rank first, which served as good practice for the much tougher new game VH no upgrades* S-rank**.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/960699-metal-gear-rising-revengeance/65648776
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/960699-metal-gear-rising-revengeance/65765918

*skills and Lv.-/-/- unique weapons allowed, no other upgrades allowed
**There's one fight I didn't manage to S-rank, the double GRAD at the end of R-02

No skills allowed runs are another (more difficult) category altogether, since you'd have to jump, BM cancel, and brawl your way out of grabs. My tactics were heavily dependent on dodging, launching with sky high, and falling lightning/lightning strike to close distances/trigger the super-slowmo.

Also, I found the dodge's ability to cancel premature blocks and blockstun, and the ability to cancel forward dodges into blocks/counterparries, to be too fundamental to game mechanics to pass up.

Enemies which are most afffected by no skill runs are Mastiffs, Sliders and Armstrong. Gekko and Raptors too, if you're dependent on aerial counterparries.
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#9Chain_StrikePosted 3/26/2013 12:03:07 PM
Raeng posted...
^You'd be surprised actually. Though a few fights go a bit down the drain spectacle wise you'll be playing a lot more thoughtful. Fights will be all about spacing all of a sudden and complex BladeMode cancels to get as much damage in before getting out of there.

Try r-01 with it, it's solid fun!


Thing is, I don't do BM cancels, having no dodge criplpes my gamestyle, yeah parry is always at the ready but sometimes dodge is just as good if not better. I don't mind handicapping myself but doing it to the point where it ges boring....yeah
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#10RaengPosted 3/26/2013 12:07:11 PM
Just saying, don't judge a book by it's cover! No Upgrade (including skills) is a lot more fun then you make it sound. Though the lack of dodge can be annoying at times (MG EX, I'm looking at you..).
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