regarding masamune possible spoilers???

#11PhaildPosted 4/25/2013 6:36:45 AM
Okay, enough with the RPG references. Here's the REAL Masamune & Muramasa. Murasama doesn't exist, it's a mistranslation of Muramasa that was put in MGR:R as a homage.


Murasama is not a mistranslation of anything. The name exist in the original Japanese concept art, written by the very artist who designed the damn thing.
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#12devak108Posted 4/25/2013 6:44:14 AM
The sword is spelled Muramyassame, guys.
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#13HeatherloverPosted 4/25/2013 6:55:55 AM
beny_pimpster posted...
so i was wondering in NG+ if you purchase the upgrades of masamune.........will it be effective against armstrong ie if you upgraded da blade with lvl4 attack will it carry over in the armstrong battle? THNX


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#14NetherTraitor0Posted 4/25/2013 7:13:31 AM
Phaild posted...
Okay, enough with the RPG references. Here's the REAL Masamune & Muramasa. Murasama doesn't exist, it's a mistranslation of Muramasa that was put in MGR:R as a homage.


Murasama is not a mistranslation of anything. The name exist in the original Japanese concept art, written by the very artist who designed the damn thing.


The Murasama blade originally appeared in the RPG Wizardry as the strongest weapon in the game. The developers were confused between Muramasa and Murasame and thus the mistake. In the Japanese version of Wizardry, the name was fixed to Muramasa. From the 5th installation onwards, it has been fixed to Muramasa in the Western releases as well. According to developer notes for Sam's concept artwork in the Collector's Edition of the Piggyback Guide, the name for the Murasama was actually the fault of the Rodrigues family, as they got the name wrong. The creators also deliberately misnamed the blade in order to pay homage to Western misunderstandings of Japanese culture.
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#15Ein_SophPosted 4/25/2013 9:36:22 AM
I like how Sephiroth's sword is the "good one" of the two. And by like, I mean hate.

Would've been much more fitting to name his sword Muramasa.
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#16MMX377Posted 4/25/2013 10:43:26 AM
Sephiroth's sword is much long blade than Frog's sword which look like a normal sword. So... Sephiroth's Masamune hands down.
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#17Ein_SophPosted 4/25/2013 4:47:39 PM
MMX377 posted...
Sephiroth's sword is much long blade than Frog's sword which look like a normal sword. So... Sephiroth's Masamune hands down.


The length has NOTHING to do with whether the sword is the Masamune or not.
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#18ukokira1Posted 4/25/2013 6:00:31 PM(edited)
NetherTraitor0 posted...
Okay, enough with the RPG references. Here's the REAL Masamune & Muramasa. Murasama doesn't exist, it's a mistranslation of Muramasa that was put in MGR:R as a homage.

Masamune, also known as Gorō Nyūdō Masamune (12641343 AD), is widely recognized as Japan's greatest swordsmith. He created swords and daggers, known in Japanese as tachi and tantō respectively, in the Soshu tradition. As no exact dates are known for Masamune's life, he has reached an almost legendary status. It is generally agreed that he made most of his swords in the late 13th and early 14th centuries, 12881328. Some stories list his family name as Okazaki, but some experts believe this is a fabrication to enhance the standing of the Tokugawa family.

Muramasa Sengo, was a famous swordsmith who founded the Muramasa school and lived during the Muromachi period (14th to 16th centuries) in Japan. Oscar Ratti and Adele Westbrook said that Muramasa "was a most skillful smith but a violent and ill-balanced mind verging on madness, that was supposed to have passed into his blades. ... They were popularly believed to hunger for blood and to impel their warrior to commit murder or suicide."


Except it is the Murasama. Sam even says the name. It's named after Sam.
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#19Rising_shadowPosted 4/25/2013 6:10:36 PM
The length has NOTHING to do with whether the sword is the Masamune or not.

Well, to a point it actually does. Sephiroth's Masamune is actually a Nodachi, a type of long sword designed to be used on horseback. Most swordsmiths only made Katana since they were weapons of status and earned a pretty coin in commissions. In life Masamune most likely never made a Nodachi. Though to be fair, it's a fictional setting anyway.
Frog's Masamune wasn't actually named as such in the original japanese release which is why it's a western longsword and not a katana. So basically neither of them use actual Masamune blades.
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#20NetherTraitor0Posted 4/25/2013 9:49:45 PM
ukokira1 posted...
NetherTraitor0 posted...
Okay, enough with the RPG references. Here's the REAL Masamune & Muramasa. Murasama doesn't exist, it's a mistranslation of Muramasa that was put in MGR:R as a homage.

Masamune, also known as Gorō Nyūdō Masamune (12641343 AD), is widely recognized as Japan's greatest swordsmith. He created swords and daggers, known in Japanese as tachi and tantō respectively, in the Soshu tradition. As no exact dates are known for Masamune's life, he has reached an almost legendary status. It is generally agreed that he made most of his swords in the late 13th and early 14th centuries, 12881328. Some stories list his family name as Okazaki, but some experts believe this is a fabrication to enhance the standing of the Tokugawa family.

Muramasa Sengo, was a famous swordsmith who founded the Muramasa school and lived during the Muromachi period (14th to 16th centuries) in Japan. Oscar Ratti and Adele Westbrook said that Muramasa "was a most skillful smith but a violent and ill-balanced mind verging on madness, that was supposed to have passed into his blades. ... They were popularly believed to hunger for blood and to impel their warrior to commit murder or suicide."


Except it is the Murasama. Sam even says the name. It's named after Sam.


The Murasama blade originally appeared in the RPG Wizardry as the strongest weapon in the game. The developers were confused between Muramasa and Murasame and thus the mistake. In the Japanese version of Wizardry, the name was fixed to Muramasa. From the 5th installation onwards, it has been fixed to Muramasa in the Western releases as well. According to developer notes for Sam's concept artwork in the Collector's Edition of the Piggyback Guide, the name for the Murasama was actually the fault of the Rodrigues family, as they got the name wrong. The creators also deliberately misnamed the blade in order to pay homage to Western misunderstandings of Japanese culture.
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